[POOL] Closing out Spring 2012 Season

[Paul M. Rich]

I'm also opposed to this.  Pretty much for the reasons everyone laid out.

--Paul

On 3/19/12 14:00 , Craig Stacey wrote:
> I agree with everything said so far.  Kevin's also not in favor of this, he's just putting it forward as someone suggested it.
>
> My objections, specifically are:
>
> 1) Ensuring drafts are even is not easily enforceable.
> 2) Our team has a system for ensuring we have enough players, or knowing in advance that we won't.  Many others do not.
> 3) Many teams play together out of a desire to play together.  Many of us work together and socialize together outside of league, and league is an extension of that social life.
> 4) How teams spend their winnings now becomes a giant mess -- we'd have to go to a system of splitting the winnings among the players, which then leads to complicating our lives by figuring out who gets what shares based on how often they play, how often they win, etc.
>
> In short, I'm less likely to stay in the league if this is implemented.
> --
> Craig
>
> On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:34 PM, Roger Sersted wrote:
>
>> I'm not in favor of the draft system.  Who wants to be "the last man standing"?  The current system is fine the way it is.  New people who don't know anyone usually get put on a team that needs extra people.  New people who know someone on the league usually get put on the team of the person/people they know.
>>
>> As for "evenly matched", as Rob stated, the handicap system is pretty good at leveling the playing field.
>>
>> Roger S.
>>
>> Robert Jacob wrote:
>>> I'm against a draft.  With the handicap system, is there really a huge imbalance in the league?  Does the same couple of teams keep winning it all?
>>> Rob
>>> On 3/19/12 12:49 PM, Craig Stacey wrote:
>>>> See below re: rule change proposal for drafting players.  Let me know your thoughts and I'll bring the team consensus to the other captains.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Kevin Beyer<beyer_k at aps.anl.gov>
>>>>> Subject: Closing out Spring 2012 Season
>>>>> Date: March 16, 2012 7:09:43 PM CDT
>>>>> To: Craig Stacey<stace at mcs.anl.gov>, Kevin Beyer<beyer_k at aps.anl.gov>, Dean Allen Bass<bass at anl.gov>, Jenny Erdmann<jenerdmann at hotmail.com>, Crews Bobby<crewsrep at aol.com>, Bob Daun<bobdaun at comcast.net>, levinles7 at gmail.com, "Ron L. Shepard"<shepard at tcg.anl.gov>, amandakvapil at yahoo.com, Michael McKiernan<MMcKiernan at tribune.com>, Dennis van der Vliet<vandervliet at anl.gov>
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is where things stand right now regarding make up matches:
>>>>>
>>>>> We have 3 weeks left of regular season play.
>>>>>
>>>>> The following teams need to do make up matches:
>>>>>
>>>>> (2/21) 1 vs 10
>>>>> (2/28) 1 vs 8
>>>>> (3/06) 4 vs 7
>>>>> (3/13) 1 vs 2
>>>>> (3/13) 4 vs 8
>>>>> (3/13) 7 vs 10 (x2)
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a lot of matches to make up in the next 3 weeks.  So, let's try and get them done before the end of the season.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, there has been a proposal for changing up the teams during the Fall 2012 session.  The proposal was as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.  Select 8 team captains from among all of the players in the league.
>>>>> 2.  Each team captain will draft players to their team like it is done in a fantasy football style draft.
>>>>> 3.  Each team must draft equal numbers of players from the various skill levels
>>>>> 4.  The end result is a league that is evenly matched across the board.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is similar to how things are done on the Argonne Bowling League.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like each of the teams to pass along this suggestion to their players and we will vote on whether or not this will be implemented.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin


-- 
Paul Rich
Software Development Specialist
ALCF Operations -- AIG
richp at alcf.anl.gov