May I humbly suggest the last name given in this wonderful short MP3: http://www.getduffed.com/lenny/sounds/name.mp3 -- Craig Stacey stace at mcs.anl.gov http://www.mcs.anl.gov/~stace Assistant Manager of Systems (630) 252-6596 MCS, Argonne National Laboratory Fax (928) 222-2420