<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:lucida console, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>I think all of the tags should get copied, but there might be use cases (in-future, I can't think of a case now</span><span style="background-color: transparent;">) where making things more general and allowing a user option for selective or complete copying of tags might prove useful.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'lucida console', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'lucida console', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Rajeev</div><div><br></div>  <div style="font-family: 'lucida console', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div
 dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Paul Wilson <wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "Jain, Rajeev" <jain@mcs.anl.gov>; shriwise <shriwise@wisc.edu>; CGMA Development <cgma-dev@mcs.anl.gov> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:09 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [cgma-dev] Inconsistency in getEntities for iGeom interface. Causes problems in iRel.<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv9048384240"><div>
    Hi Rajeev,<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Thanks for the response.  I guess it's still not clear what the
    expected behavior should be when copying an entity in iGeom.  Should
    it copy some/none/all of the tags to the new entity?  Is there a
    standard for what gets copied?<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    Paul<br clear="none">
    <br clear="none">
    <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv9048384240yqt4985277294" id="yiv9048384240yqt57613"><div class="yiv9048384240moz-cite-prefix">On 07/15/2014 08:26 PM, Rajeev Jain
      wrote:<br clear="none">
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        <div><span>Sorry, I missed this email.</span></div>
        <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'lucida console', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Yes, you are right. It
            is for OCC based meshing. The test names volumes/surfs etc
            and then tries to retrieve them.</span></div>
        <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'lucida console', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">You can ignore the test case
          as we started working on developing other missing pieces for
          OCC geometry based meshing in MeshKit. When entities are
          copied the names can be copied with some an additional letter
          word under some convention. </div>
        <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'lucida console', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;">Ex. CUBIT uses vol 1 named as
          mysteel when copied the new vol 2 is called mysteel@a etc.</div>
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        <div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: 'lucida console', sans-serif; font-style: normal; background-color: transparent;"><span>Rajeev</span></div>
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              <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> shriwise
                <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9048384240moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:shriwise@wisc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:shriwise@wisc.edu"><shriwise@wisc.edu></a><br clear="none">
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Paul
                Wilson <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9048384240moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu"><wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu></a>; "Jain, Rajeev"
                <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9048384240moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:jain@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:jain@mcs.anl.gov"><jain@mcs.anl.gov></a>; CGMA Development
                <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9048384240moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:cgma-dev@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:cgma-dev@mcs.anl.gov"><cgma-dev@mcs.anl.gov></a> <br clear="none">
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:29 AM<br clear="none">
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                Re: [cgma-dev] Inconsistency in getEntities for iGeom
                interface. Causes problems in iRel.<br clear="none">
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                  Bump. <br clear="none">
                  <br clear="none">
                  <div class="yiv9048384240moz-cite-prefix">On
                    07/11/2014 08:15 PM, Paul Wilson wrote:<br clear="none">
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                  <blockquote type="cite">Rajeev,<br clear="none">
                    <br clear="none">
                    You are mentioned in the git logs as the inspiration
                    for the copy_attrib test that Patrick mentioned.  (a
                    few years ago)<br clear="none">
                    <br clear="none">
                    I wonder if you have any thoughts on what the
                    purpose and/or requirements are for this
                    capability?  You probably needed it for RGG based on
                    OCC?<br clear="none">
                    <br clear="none">
                    Paul<br clear="none">
                    <br clear="none">
                    <div class="yiv9048384240moz-cite-prefix">On
                      07/11/2014 07:21 PM, Patrick Shriwise wrote:<br clear="none">
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                    <blockquote type="cite">Hi all, <br clear="none">
                      <br clear="none">
                      I'm currently working on the changes to iGeom that
                      Paul previously proposed. I've hit one test when
                      built with OCC (copy_attrib) that suggests that
                      tags are expected to be copied along with an
                      entity when using iGeom functions like copyEnt or
                      subtractEnt. Is this the case? Are these specifc
                      tags that are supposed to be copied if they exist
                      on the original entity?<br clear="none">
                      <br clear="none">
                      Also to be clear this has become an issue because
                      for volume entities we now use the RefVolume to
                      get the volume Body and make a copy of that body
                      using the GeometryModifyTool. The Body we make a
                      copy of does not have the tags associated with the
                      RefVolume. As a result the new Body and the
                      corresponding RefVolumethat we return from the
                      function does not have the original tags.
                      <br clear="none">
                      <br clear="none">
                      These tags can be transferred to the new entity
                      before leaving the function of course, but we're
                      looking for the proper way to handle this
                      situation. Mainly it would be good to know if
                      there is a particular tag or tags that should be
                      copied over to new entity upon it's creation. <br clear="none">
                      <br clear="none">
                      Cheers, <br clear="none">
                      <br clear="none">
                      Patrick <br clear="none">
                      <br clear="none">
                      <br clear="none">
                      <div class="yiv9048384240moz-cite-prefix">On
                        06/23/2014 03:06 PM, Paul Wilson wrote:<br clear="none">
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                      <blockquote type="cite">Hi everyone,<br clear="none">
                        <br clear="none">
                        Patrick and I have discussed this and have come
                        up with the following proposal for a revision of
                        how iGeom_CGMA handles RefVolumes and Body's.<br clear="none">
                        <ol><li>All references to iBase_REGION will refer
                            only to entities of type RefVolume in CGM.
                          </li><li>All entities that are returned by iGeom
                            will be RefEntities and not CubitEntities
                          </li><li>At the time of loading file, based on an
                            option based to iGeom_load(), all entities
                            of type Body in CGM that contain more than a
                            single volume, will be converted to
                            RefGroup's and tagged to distinguish them
                            from the original RefGroup's
                          </li></ol>
                        <div>The last of these may be subject to the
                          most conversation, but it seemed like a useful
                          approach to use because it:<br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <ul><li>had little to no effect on the API of
                            iGeom </li><li>preserves access to CGM/ACIS bodies </li><li>is the least intrusive in the
                            implementation of iGeom_CGMA </li></ul>
                        <div>If a user does NOT pass in the option (e.g.
                          "CONVERT_BODY_TO_GROUP"), then no bodies will
                          be accessible through iGeom.  If a user does
                          pass in this option, any call to
                          iGeom_getEntSets will return both the original
                          RefGroups and the additional RefGroups that
                          were generated automatically from Bodies.  It
                          will be up to the user to filter between them
                          using the available tag. 
                          <br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <div>Finally, since every RefVolume in ACIS
                          always has a Body in which it is a member, it
                          seems best to only convert Bodies that contain
                          >1 RefVolume to avoid creating far more
                          RefGroups than necessary.<br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <div>We'd like to embark on these changes soon,
                          but welcome any comments or feedback.  I'm
                          sure we've missed something!<br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <div>Paul<br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <br clear="none">
                        <div class="yiv9048384240moz-cite-prefix">On
                          06/17/2014 09:00 AM, Jane Hu wrote:<br clear="none">
                        </div>
                        <blockquote type="cite">
                          <div dir="ltr">So, I will add RefVolume to the
                            return list of iGeom_get_adjacent_entities()
                            as the result of the discussion.
                            <div><br clear="none">
                            </div>
                            <div>CubitEntity only has derived classes of
                              RefEntity
                              and CubitCoordinateSystem, iGeom_CGMA.cc
                              only uses RefEntity as instance of the
                              object. </div>
                            <div><br clear="none">
                            </div>
                            <div>Jane</div>
                          </div>
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                            <br clear="none">
                            <div class="yiv9048384240gmail_quote">On
                              Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Jane Hu <span dir="ltr">
                                <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com">janejhu@gmail.com</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br clear="none">
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                                <div dir="ltr">See comments below...<br clear="none">
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                                    <div class="yiv9048384240gmail_quote">
                                      <div class="yiv9048384240">On Mon,
                                        Jun 16, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Paul
                                        Wilson <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu">wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu</a>></span>
                                        wrote:<br clear="none">
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                                          <div>Hi Jane,<br clear="none">
                                            <br clear="none">
                                            I think this needs a
                                            thorough review!  Patrick
                                            and I hunted through
                                            iGeom_CGMA and found some
                                            inconsistencies in a few
                                            places.<br clear="none">
                                            <br clear="none">
                                            First, there is an
                                            inconsistency between
                                            returning pointers to
                                            RefEntity and pointers to
                                            CubitEntity.  This is
                                            probably less important, but
                                            should probably be resolved
                                            in any change.<br clear="none">
                                          </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <div> </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>I see RefEntity is inherited
                                        from CubitEntity, and
                                        CubitEntity is a pure virtual
                                        class. So even you got pointers
                                        to CubitEntity, you have to
                                        instantiate it to RefEntity
                                        objects.</div>
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                                            Second, there are places
                                            where the geometry is
                                            queried for entities of
                                            dimension=3 (returning
                                            RefVolumes) and places where
                                            the geometry is queried for
                                            entities of
                                            type=iGeom_REGION (== Body).<br clear="none">
                                          </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <div><br clear="none">
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>In this case, I can return
                                        both bodies and refvolumes, so
                                        after user gets the refentity
                                        list back, he can cast to see if
                                        they are bodies or refvolumes,
                                        and choose to keep what ever he
                                        needs.</div>
                                      <div>
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                                          <div> </div>
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                                              This means that 2 calls
                                              into the interface that
                                              should resolve to the same
                                              entity may not do so for
                                              both reasons.<br clear="none">
                                              <br clear="none">
                                              All of this is related to
                                              the fundamental difference
                                              between the iGeom types
                                              (equivalent to vertex,
                                              edge, face, volume) and
                                              the CGM/ACIS types
                                              (equiavlent to vertex,
                                              edge, face, volume,
                                              body).  I think Tim's
                                              suggestion is the best,
                                              but will require some
                                              substantial effort.<span><font color="#888888"><br clear="none">
                                                  <br clear="none">
                                                  Paul</font></span>
                                              <div>
                                                <div><br clear="none">
                                                  <br clear="none">
                                                  <div>On 06/16/2014
                                                    10:14 AM, Jane Hu
                                                    wrote:<br clear="none">
                                                  </div>
                                                  <blockquote type="cite">
                                                    <div dir="ltr">I see
                                                      in iGeom_CGMA.cc
                                                      file,
                                                      function iGeom_get_adjacent_entities,
                                                      if asks for 3-D
                                                      refentities, it
                                                      returns body list.
                                                      In CGM, bodies are
                                                      not necessary to
                                                      be 3-D entities,
                                                      it may contain
                                                      single surface or
                                                      shell. Should we
                                                      change the return
                                                      to be only
                                                      refvolumes which
                                                      are 3-D entities
                                                      (I prefer this,
                                                      makes more sense)?
                                                      Or I can return
                                                      both bodies and
                                                      refvolumes in the
                                                      returned refentity
                                                      list. Depending on
                                                      your user case, I
                                                      can return one of
                                                      the two choices.
                                                      <div><br clear="none">
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Jane</div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div class="yiv9048384240gmail_extra"><br clear="none">
                                                      <br clear="none">
                                                      <div class="yiv9048384240gmail_quote">On
                                                        Mon, Jun 16,
                                                        2014 at 9:32 AM,
                                                        Jane Hu <span dir="ltr">
                                                          <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com">janejhu@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                        wrote:<br clear="none">
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Yes,
                                                          it returns a
                                                          list of
                                                          refVolume's
                                                          which are
                                                          RefEntities.<span><font color="#888888">
                                                          </font></span><div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Jane</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="yiv9048384240gmail_extra"><br clear="none">
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                                                          <div class="yiv9048384240gmail_quote">On
                                                          Sun, Jun 15,
                                                          2014 at 11:55
                                                          PM, Patrick
                                                          Shriwise <span dir="ltr">
                                                          <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:shriwise@wisc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:shriwise@wisc.edu">shriwise@wisc.edu</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br clear="none">
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Hi Jane, </div>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Will the
                                                          ref_volumes()
                                                          method return
                                                          RefEntities? </div>
                                                          <span><font color="#888888">
                                                          </font></span><div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Patrick</div>
                                                          
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          On Jun 15,
                                                          2014, at 3:56
                                                          PM, Jane Hu
                                                          <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com">janejhu@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Look
                                                          at line 6454,
                                                          if you have
                                                          body's
                                                          pointer,
                                                          directly call
                                                          ref_volumes()
                                                          will work.
                                                          It's not an
                                                          iGeom
                                                          interface
                                                          function, but
                                                          you can access
                                                          it in iGeom.
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Good
                                                          luck!</div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Jane</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="yiv9048384240gmail_extra"><br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <div class="yiv9048384240gmail_quote">On
                                                          Sat, Jun 14,
                                                          2014 at 8:55
                                                          AM, Patrick
                                                          Shriwise <span dir="ltr">
                                                          <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:shriwise@wisc.edu" target="_blank" href="mailto:shriwise@wisc.edu">shriwise@wisc.edu</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br clear="none">
                                                          <blockquote class="yiv9048384240gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                                                          <div>Hi Jane,
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          I looked
                                                          around for
                                                          this but
                                                          didn't see it,
                                                          is there a
                                                          specific
                                                          line/function
                                                          you were
                                                          thinking of?
                                                          Good to know
                                                          the ref_volume
                                                          information is
                                                          so easy to get
                                                          to, but it
                                                          doesn't seem
                                                          that its part
                                                          of the iGeom
                                                          interface. The
                                                          issue being
                                                          that there's
                                                          no way to
                                                          access a
                                                          body's volumes
                                                          via iGeom. <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Cheers, <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Patrick <br clear="none">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          06/13/2014
                                                          11:26 PM, Jane
                                                          Hu wrote:<br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">
                                                          <div class="yiv9048384240gmail_extra"><br clear="none">
                                                          <div class="yiv9048384240gmail_quote">
                                                          <blockquote class="yiv9048384240gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                           Is there a
                                                          way to get
                                                          volumes within
                                                          bodies via
                                                          iGeom?</div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>See
                                                          example in
                                                           iGeom_CGMA.cc,
body->ref_volumes(volumes).</div>
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Jane</div>
                                                          <blockquote class="yiv9048384240gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;">
                                                          <div><span><font color="#888888"><br clear="none">
                                                          </font></span><pre>-- 
Patrick C. Shriwise
Research Assistant
University of Wisconsin - Madison
Engineering Research Building - Rm. 428
1500 Engineering Drive
Madison, WI 53706
<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">(608) 446-8173</a>
</pre>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br clear="none">
                                                          Jane Hu<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Asst.
                                                          Researcher<br clear="none">
                                                          Dept. of
                                                          Engineering
                                                          Physics<br clear="none">
                                                          UW @ Madison<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          "And we know
                                                          that for those
                                                          who love God,
                                                          that is, for
                                                          those who are
                                                          called
                                                          according to
                                                          his purpose,
                                                          all things are
                                                          working
                                                          together for
                                                          good." (Romans
                                                          8:28)
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br clear="none">
                                                          Jane Hu<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Asst.
                                                          Researcher<br clear="none">
                                                          Dept. of
                                                          Engineering
                                                          Physics<br clear="none">
                                                          UW @ Madison<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          "And we know
                                                          that for those
                                                          who love God,
                                                          that is, for
                                                          those who are
                                                          called
                                                          according to
                                                          his purpose,
                                                          all things are
                                                          working
                                                          together for
                                                          good." (Romans
                                                          8:28)
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="all">
                                                          <div><br clear="none">
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br clear="none">
                                                          Jane Hu<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          Asst.
                                                          Researcher<br clear="none">
                                                          Dept. of
                                                          Engineering
                                                          Physics<br clear="none">
                                                          UW @ Madison<br clear="none">
                                                          <br clear="none">
                                                          "And we know
                                                          that for those
                                                          who love God,
                                                          that is, for
                                                          those who are
                                                          called
                                                          according to
                                                          his purpose,
                                                          all things are
                                                          working
                                                          together for
                                                          good." (Romans
                                                          8:28)
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </blockquote>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <br clear="none">
                                                      <br clear="all">
                                                      <div><br clear="none">
                                                      </div>
                                                      -- <br clear="none">
                                                      Jane Hu<br clear="none">
                                                      <br clear="none">
                                                      Asst. Researcher<br clear="none">
                                                      Dept. of
                                                      Engineering
                                                      Physics<br clear="none">
                                                      UW @ Madison<br clear="none">
                                                      <br clear="none">
                                                      "And we know that
                                                      for those who love
                                                      God, that is, for
                                                      those who are
                                                      called according
                                                      to his purpose,
                                                      all things are
                                                      working together
                                                      for good." (Romans
                                                      8:28)
                                                    </div>
                                                  </blockquote>
                                                  <br clear="none">
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <pre>-- 
-- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --
Paul Wilson ~ UW-Madison ~ <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="">608-263-0807</a> ~ cal: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://bit.ly/pphw-cal">http://bit.ly/pphw-cal</a>
Professor, Engineering Physics. ~ <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu/">http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu</a>
Faculty Director, Advanced Computing Infrastructure</pre>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div class="yiv9048384240h5"><br clear="none">
                                        <br clear="all">
                                        <div><br clear="none">
                                        </div>
                                        -- <br clear="none">
                                        Jane Hu<br clear="none">
                                        <br clear="none">
                                        Asst. Researcher<br clear="none">
                                        Dept. of Engineering Physics<br clear="none">
                                        UW @ Madison<br clear="none">
                                        <br clear="none">
                                        "And we know that for those who
                                        love God, that is, for those who
                                        are called according to his
                                        purpose, all things are working
                                        together for good." (Romans
                                        8:28)
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </blockquote>
                            </div>
                            <br clear="none">
                            <br clear="all">
                            <div><br clear="none">
                            </div>
                            -- <br clear="none">
                            Jane Hu<br clear="none">
                            <br clear="none">
                            Asst. Researcher<br clear="none">
                            Dept. of Engineering Physics<br clear="none">
                            UW @ Madison<br clear="none">
                            <br clear="none">
                            "And we know that for those who love God,
                            that is, for those who are called according
                            to his purpose, all things are working
                            together for good." (Romans 8:28)
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                        <br clear="none">
                        <pre class="yiv9048384240moz-signature">-- 
-- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --
Paul Wilson ~ UW-Madison ~ 608-263-0807 ~ cal: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9048384240moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://bit.ly/pphw-cal">http://bit.ly/pphw-cal</a>
Professor, Engineering Physics. ~ <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9048384240moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu/">http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu</a>
Faculty Director, Advanced Computing Infrastructure</pre>
                      </blockquote>
                      <br clear="none">
                      <pre class="yiv9048384240moz-signature">-- 
Patrick C. Shriwise
Research Assistant
University of Wisconsin - Madison
Engineering Research Building - Rm. 428
1500 Engineering Drive
Madison, WI 53706
(608) 446-8173
</pre>
                    </blockquote>
                    <br clear="none">
                    <pre class="yiv9048384240moz-signature">-- 
-- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --
Paul Wilson ~ UW-Madison ~ 608-263-0807 ~ cal: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9048384240moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://bit.ly/pphw-cal">http://bit.ly/pphw-cal</a>
Professor, Engineering Physics. ~ <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9048384240moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu/">http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu</a>
Faculty Director, Advanced Computing Infrastructure</pre>
                  </blockquote>
                  <br clear="none">
                  <pre class="yiv9048384240moz-signature">-- 
Patrick C. Shriwise
Research Assistant
University of Wisconsin - Madison
Engineering Research Building - Rm. 428
1500 Engineering Drive
Madison, WI 53706
(608) 446-8173
</pre>
                </div>
              </div>
              <br clear="none">
              <br clear="none">
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote></div>
    <br clear="none">
    <pre class="yiv9048384240moz-signature">-- 
-- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --
Paul Wilson ~ UW-Madison ~ 608-263-0807 ~ cal: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9048384240moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://bit.ly/pphw-cal">http://bit.ly/pphw-cal</a>
Professor, Engineering Physics. ~ <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9048384240moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu/">http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu</a>
Faculty Director, Advanced Computing Infrastructure</pre>
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