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    Hi all, <br>
    <br>
    I'm currently working on the changes to iGeom that Paul previously
    proposed. I've hit one test when built with OCC (copy_attrib) that
    suggests that tags are expected to be copied along with an entity
    when using iGeom functions like copyEnt or subtractEnt. Is this the
    case? Are these specifc tags that are supposed to be copied if they
    exist on the original entity?<br>
    <br>
    Also to be clear this has become an issue because for volume
    entities we now use the RefVolume to get the volume Body and make a
    copy of that body using the GeometryModifyTool. The Body we make a
    copy of does not have the tags associated with the RefVolume. As a
    result the new Body and the corresponding RefVolumethat we return
    from the function does not have the original tags. <br>
    <br>
    These tags can be transferred to the new entity before leaving the
    function of course, but we're looking for the proper way to handle
    this situation. Mainly it would be good to know if there is a
    particular tag or tags that should be copied over to new entity upon
    it's creation. <br>
    <br>
    Cheers, <br>
    <br>
    Patrick <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/23/2014 03:06 PM, Paul Wilson
      wrote:<br>
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      Hi everyone,<br>
      <br>
      Patrick and I have discussed this and have come up with the
      following proposal for a revision of how iGeom_CGMA handles
      RefVolumes and Body's.<br>
      <ol>
        <li>All references to iBase_REGION will refer only to entities
          of type RefVolume in CGM.</li>
        <li>All entities that are returned by iGeom will be RefEntities
          and not CubitEntities</li>
        <li>At the time of loading file, based on an option based to
          iGeom_load(), all entities of type Body in CGM that contain
          more than a single volume, will be converted to RefGroup's and
          tagged to distinguish them from the original RefGroup's</li>
      </ol>
      <p>The last of these may be subject to the most conversation, but
        it seemed like a useful approach to use because it:<br>
      </p>
      <ul>
        <li>had little to no effect on the API of iGeom</li>
        <li>preserves access to CGM/ACIS bodies</li>
        <li>is the least intrusive in the implementation of iGeom_CGMA</li>
      </ul>
      <p>If a user does NOT pass in the option (e.g.
        "CONVERT_BODY_TO_GROUP"), then no bodies will be accessible
        through iGeom.  If a user does pass in this option, any call to
        iGeom_getEntSets will return both the original RefGroups and the
        additional RefGroups that were generated automatically from
        Bodies.  It will be up to the user to filter between them using
        the available tag.  <br>
      </p>
      <p>Finally, since every RefVolume in ACIS always has a Body in
        which it is a member, it seems best to only convert Bodies that
        contain >1 RefVolume to avoid creating far more RefGroups
        than necessary.<br>
      </p>
      <p>We'd like to embark on these changes soon, but welcome any
        comments or feedback.  I'm sure we've missed something!<br>
      </p>
      <p>Paul<br>
      </p>
      <br>
      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/17/2014 09:00 AM, Jane Hu
        wrote:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote
cite="mid:CACmQ6V4j4cB1=WVYhS7yjFxB9BaHCpYoWLd=YvKUWrLRU867Gw@mail.gmail.com"
        type="cite">
        <div dir="ltr">So, I will add RefVolume to the return list
          of iGeom_get_adjacent_entities() as the result of the
          discussion.
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>CubitEntity only has derived classes of RefEntity
            and CubitCoordinateSystem, iGeom_CGMA.cc only uses RefEntity
            as instance of the object. </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Jane</div>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:35 AM,
            Jane Hu <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com" target="_blank">janejhu@gmail.com</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">See comments below...<br>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div class="">On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Paul
                      Wilson <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu"
                          target="_blank">wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu</a>></span>
                      wrote:<br>
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                        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Jane,<br>
                          <br>
                          I think this needs a thorough review!  Patrick
                          and I hunted through iGeom_CGMA and found some
                          inconsistencies in a few places.<br>
                          <br>
                          First, there is an inconsistency between
                          returning pointers to RefEntity and pointers
                          to CubitEntity.  This is probably less
                          important, but should probably be resolved in
                          any change.<br>
                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                      <div> </div>
                    </div>
                    <div>I see RefEntity is inherited from CubitEntity,
                      and CubitEntity is a pure virtual class. So even
                      you got pointers to CubitEntity, you have to
                      instantiate it to RefEntity objects.</div>
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                      <div> </div>
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                        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <br>
                          Second, there are places where the geometry is
                          queried for entities of dimension=3 (returning
                          RefVolumes) and places where the geometry is
                          queried for entities of type=iGeom_REGION (==
                          Body).<br>
                        </div>
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                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    <div>In this case, I can return both bodies and
                      refvolumes, so after user gets the refentity list
                      back, he can cast to see if they are bodies or
                      refvolumes, and choose to keep what ever he needs.</div>
                    <div>
                      <div class="h5">
                        <div> </div>
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                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <br>
                            This means that 2 calls into the interface
                            that should resolve to the same entity may
                            not do so for both reasons.<br>
                            <br>
                            All of this is related to the fundamental
                            difference between the iGeom types
                            (equivalent to vertex, edge, face, volume)
                            and the CGM/ACIS types (equiavlent to
                            vertex, edge, face, volume, body).  I think
                            Tim's suggestion is the best, but will
                            require some substantial effort.<span><font
                                color="#888888"><br>
                                <br>
                                Paul</font></span>
                            <div>
                              <div><br>
                                <br>
                                <div>On 06/16/2014 10:14 AM, Jane Hu
                                  wrote:<br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                  <div dir="ltr">I see in iGeom_CGMA.cc
                                    file,
                                    function iGeom_get_adjacent_entities,
                                    if asks for 3-D refentities, it
                                    returns body list. In CGM, bodies
                                    are not necessary to be 3-D
                                    entities, it may contain single
                                    surface or shell. Should we change
                                    the return to be only refvolumes
                                    which are 3-D entities (I prefer
                                    this, makes more sense)? Or I can
                                    return both bodies and refvolumes in
                                    the returned refentity list.
                                    Depending on your user case, I can
                                    return one of the two choices.
                                    <div> <br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Jane</div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                    <br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun
                                      16, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Jane Hu <span
                                        dir="ltr"><<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com"
                                          target="_blank">janejhu@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">Yes, it returns a
                                          list of refVolume's which are
                                          RefEntities.<span><font
                                              color="#888888">
                                              <div> <br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>Jane</div>
                                            </font></span></div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                              <br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On

                                                Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at
                                                11:55 PM, Patrick
                                                Shriwise <span
                                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:shriwise@wisc.edu" target="_blank">shriwise@wisc.edu</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br>
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                                                  <div dir="auto">
                                                    <div>Hi Jane, </div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Will the
                                                      ref_volumes()
                                                      method return
                                                      RefEntities? </div>
                                                    <span><font
                                                        color="#888888">
                                                        <div> <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>Patrick</div>
                                                      </font></span>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                          On Jun 15,
                                                          2014, at 3:56
                                                          PM, Jane Hu
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com" target="_blank">janejhu@gmail.com</a>>


                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Look

                                                          at line 6454,
                                                          if you have
                                                          body's
                                                          pointer,
                                                          directly call
                                                          ref_volumes()
                                                          will work.
                                                          It's not an
                                                          iGeom
                                                          interface
                                                          function, but
                                                          you can access
                                                          it in iGeom.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Good
                                                          luck!</div>
                                                          <div> <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Jane</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Sat, Jun 14,
                                                          2014 at 8:55
                                                          AM, Patrick
                                                          Shriwise <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:shriwise@wisc.edu" target="_blank">shriwise@wisc.edu</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Jane, <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I looked
                                                          around for
                                                          this but
                                                          didn't see it,
                                                          is there a
                                                          specific
                                                          line/function
                                                          you were
                                                          thinking of?
                                                          Good to know
                                                          the ref_volume
                                                          information is
                                                          so easy to get
                                                          to, but it
                                                          doesn't seem
                                                          that its part
                                                          of the iGeom
                                                          interface. The
                                                          issue being
                                                          that there's
                                                          no way to
                                                          access a
                                                          body's volumes
                                                          via iGeom. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers, <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Patrick <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          06/13/2014
                                                          11:26 PM, Jane
                                                          Hu wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
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                                                          bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                                          text="#000000"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                           Is there a
                                                          way to get
                                                          volumes within
                                                          bodies via
                                                          iGeom?</div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>See
                                                          example in
                                                           iGeom_CGMA.cc,
body->ref_volumes(volumes).</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Jane</div>
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                                                          <div
                                                          bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                                          text="#000000"><span><font
color="#888888"><br>
                                                          <pre cols="72">-- 
Patrick C. Shriwise
Research Assistant
University of Wisconsin - Madison
Engineering Research Building - Rm. 428
1500 Engineering Drive
Madison, WI 53706
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28608%29%20446-8173" value="+16084468173" target="_blank">(608) 446-8173</a>
</pre>
                                                          </font></span></div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Jane Hu<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Asst.
                                                          Researcher<br>
                                                          Dept. of
                                                          Engineering
                                                          Physics<br>
                                                          UW @ Madison<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          "And we know
                                                          that for those
                                                          who love God,
                                                          that is, for
                                                          those who are
                                                          called
                                                          according to
                                                          his purpose,
                                                          all things are
                                                          working
                                                          together for
                                                          good." (Romans
                                                          8:28) </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Jane Hu<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Asst.
                                                          Researcher<br>
                                                          Dept. of
                                                          Engineering
                                                          Physics<br>
                                                          UW @ Madison<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          "And we know
                                                          that for those
                                                          who love God,
                                                          that is, for
                                                          those who are
                                                          called
                                                          according to
                                                          his purpose,
                                                          all things are
                                                          working
                                                          together for
                                                          good." (Romans
                                                          8:28) </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </blockquote>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
                                              <br clear="all">
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              -- <br>
                                              Jane Hu<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Asst. Researcher<br>
                                              Dept. of Engineering
                                              Physics<br>
                                              UW @ Madison<br>
                                              <br>
                                              "And we know that for
                                              those who love God, that
                                              is, for those who are
                                              called according to his
                                              purpose, all things are
                                              working together for
                                              good." (Romans 8:28) </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </blockquote>
                                    </div>
                                    <br>
                                    <br clear="all">
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    -- <br>
                                    Jane Hu<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Asst. Researcher<br>
                                    Dept. of Engineering Physics<br>
                                    UW @ Madison<br>
                                    <br>
                                    "And we know that for those who love
                                    God, that is, for those who are
                                    called according to his purpose, all
                                    things are working together for
                                    good." (Romans 8:28) </div>
                                </blockquote>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <pre cols="72">-- 
-- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --
Paul Wilson ~ UW-Madison ~ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:608-263-0807" value="+16082630807" target="_blank">608-263-0807</a> ~ cal: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/pphw-cal" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/pphw-cal</a>
Professor, Engineering Physics. ~ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu" target="_blank">http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu</a>
Faculty Director, Advanced Computing Infrastructure</pre>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div class="h5"><br>
                      <br clear="all">
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      -- <br>
                      Jane Hu<br>
                      <br>
                      Asst. Researcher<br>
                      Dept. of Engineering Physics<br>
                      UW @ Madison<br>
                      <br>
                      "And we know that for those who love God, that is,
                      for those who are called according to his purpose,
                      all things are working together for good." (Romans
                      8:28) </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <br>
          <br clear="all">
          <div><br>
          </div>
          -- <br>
          Jane Hu<br>
          <br>
          Asst. Researcher<br>
          Dept. of Engineering Physics<br>
          UW @ Madison<br>
          <br>
          "And we know that for those who love God, that is, for those
          who are called according to his purpose, all things are
          working together for good." (Romans 8:28) </div>
      </blockquote>
      <br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
-- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --
Paul Wilson ~ UW-Madison ~ 608-263-0807 ~ cal: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bit.ly/pphw-cal">http://bit.ly/pphw-cal</a>
Professor, Engineering Physics. ~ <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu">http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu</a>
Faculty Director, Advanced Computing Infrastructure</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Patrick C. Shriwise
Research Assistant
University of Wisconsin - Madison
Engineering Research Building - Rm. 428
1500 Engineering Drive
Madison, WI 53706
(608) 446-8173
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