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    Hi everyone,<br>
    <br>
    Patrick and I have discussed this and have come up with the
    following proposal for a revision of how iGeom_CGMA handles
    RefVolumes and Body's.<br>
    <ol>
      <li>All references to iBase_REGION will refer only to entities of
        type RefVolume in CGM.</li>
      <li>All entities that are returned by iGeom will be RefEntities
        and not CubitEntities</li>
      <li>At the time of loading file, based on an option based to
        iGeom_load(), all entities of type Body in CGM that contain more
        than a single volume, will be converted to RefGroup's and tagged
        to distinguish them from the original RefGroup's</li>
    </ol>
    <p>The last of these may be subject to the most conversation, but it
      seemed like a useful approach to use because it:<br>
    </p>
    <ul>
      <li>had little to no effect on the API of iGeom</li>
      <li>preserves access to CGM/ACIS bodies</li>
      <li>is the least intrusive in the implementation of iGeom_CGMA</li>
    </ul>
    <p>If a user does NOT pass in the option (e.g.
      "CONVERT_BODY_TO_GROUP"), then no bodies will be accessible
      through iGeom.  If a user does pass in this option, any call to
      iGeom_getEntSets will return both the original RefGroups and the
      additional RefGroups that were generated automatically from
      Bodies.  It will be up to the user to filter between them using
      the available tag.  <br>
    </p>
    <p>Finally, since every RefVolume in ACIS always has a Body in which
      it is a member, it seems best to only convert Bodies that contain
      >1 RefVolume to avoid creating far more RefGroups than
      necessary.<br>
    </p>
    <p>We'd like to embark on these changes soon, but welcome any
      comments or feedback.  I'm sure we've missed something!<br>
    </p>
    <p>Paul<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/17/2014 09:00 AM, Jane Hu wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CACmQ6V4j4cB1=WVYhS7yjFxB9BaHCpYoWLd=YvKUWrLRU867Gw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">So, I will add RefVolume to the return list
        of iGeom_get_adjacent_entities() as the result of the
        discussion.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>CubitEntity only has derived classes of RefEntity
          and CubitCoordinateSystem, iGeom_CGMA.cc only uses RefEntity
          as instance of the object. </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Jane</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Jane
          Hu <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com" target="_blank">janejhu@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">See comments below...<br>
              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                <br>
                <div class="gmail_quote">
                  <div class="">On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Paul
                    Wilson <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu"
                        target="_blank">wilsonp@engr.wisc.edu</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Jane,<br>
                        <br>
                        I think this needs a thorough review!  Patrick
                        and I hunted through iGeom_CGMA and found some
                        inconsistencies in a few places.<br>
                        <br>
                        First, there is an inconsistency between
                        returning pointers to RefEntity and pointers to
                        CubitEntity.  This is probably less important,
                        but should probably be resolved in any change.<br>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <div> </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>I see RefEntity is inherited from CubitEntity,
                    and CubitEntity is a pure virtual class. So even you
                    got pointers to CubitEntity, you have to instantiate
                    it to RefEntity objects.</div>
                  <div class="">
                    <div> </div>
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <br>
                        Second, there are places where the geometry is
                        queried for entities of dimension=3 (returning
                        RefVolumes) and places where the geometry is
                        queried for entities of type=iGeom_REGION (==
                        Body).<br>
                      </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>In this case, I can return both bodies and
                    refvolumes, so after user gets the refentity list
                    back, he can cast to see if they are bodies or
                    refvolumes, and choose to keep what ever he needs.</div>
                  <div>
                    <div class="h5">
                      <div> </div>
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                          This means that 2 calls into the interface
                          that should resolve to the same entity may not
                          do so for both reasons.<br>
                          <br>
                          All of this is related to the fundamental
                          difference between the iGeom types (equivalent
                          to vertex, edge, face, volume) and the
                          CGM/ACIS types (equiavlent to vertex, edge,
                          face, volume, body).  I think Tim's suggestion
                          is the best, but will require some substantial
                          effort.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                              <br>
                              Paul</font></span>
                          <div>
                            <div><br>
                              <br>
                              <div>On 06/16/2014 10:14 AM, Jane Hu
                                wrote:<br>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                <div dir="ltr">I see in iGeom_CGMA.cc
                                  file,
                                  function iGeom_get_adjacent_entities,
                                  if asks for 3-D refentities, it
                                  returns body list. In CGM, bodies are
                                  not necessary to be 3-D entities, it
                                  may contain single surface or shell.
                                  Should we change the return to be only
                                  refvolumes which are 3-D entities (I
                                  prefer this, makes more sense)? Or I
                                  can return both bodies and refvolumes
                                  in the returned refentity list.
                                  Depending on your user case, I can
                                  return one of the two choices.
                                  <div> <br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Jane</div>
                                </div>
                                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                  <br>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun
                                    16, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Jane Hu <span
                                      dir="ltr"><<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">janejhu@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                    wrote:<br>
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                                      <div dir="ltr">Yes, it returns a
                                        list of refVolume's which are
                                        RefEntities.<span><font
                                            color="#888888">
                                            <div> <br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Jane</div>
                                          </font></span></div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                            <br>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                              Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 11:55
                                              PM, Patrick Shriwise <span
                                                dir="ltr"><<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:shriwise@wisc.edu" target="_blank">shriwise@wisc.edu</a>></span>
                                              wrote:<br>
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                                                <div dir="auto">
                                                  <div>Hi Jane, </div>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Will the
                                                    ref_volumes() method
                                                    return RefEntities? </div>
                                                  <span><font
                                                      color="#888888">
                                                      <div> <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Patrick</div>
                                                    </font></span>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                        On Jun 15, 2014,
                                                        at 3:56 PM, Jane
                                                        Hu <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:janejhu@gmail.com" target="_blank">janejhu@gmail.com</a>>

                                                        wrote:<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <blockquote
                                                        type="cite">
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Look
                                                          at line 6454,
                                                          if you have
                                                          body's
                                                          pointer,
                                                          directly call
                                                          ref_volumes()
                                                          will work.
                                                          It's not an
                                                          iGeom
                                                          interface
                                                          function, but
                                                          you can access
                                                          it in iGeom.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Good
                                                          luck!</div>
                                                          <div> <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Jane</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Sat, Jun 14,
                                                          2014 at 8:55
                                                          AM, Patrick
                                                          Shriwise <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:shriwise@wisc.edu" target="_blank">shriwise@wisc.edu</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Hi Jane, <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I looked
                                                          around for
                                                          this but
                                                          didn't see it,
                                                          is there a
                                                          specific
                                                          line/function
                                                          you were
                                                          thinking of?
                                                          Good to know
                                                          the ref_volume
                                                          information is
                                                          so easy to get
                                                          to, but it
                                                          doesn't seem
                                                          that its part
                                                          of the iGeom
                                                          interface. The
                                                          issue being
                                                          that there's
                                                          no way to
                                                          access a
                                                          body's volumes
                                                          via iGeom. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cheers, <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Patrick <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          06/13/2014
                                                          11:26 PM, Jane
                                                          Hu wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0px
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                                                          bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                                          text="#000000"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                           Is there a
                                                          way to get
                                                          volumes within
                                                          bodies via
                                                          iGeom?</div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>See
                                                          example in
                                                           iGeom_CGMA.cc,
body->ref_volumes(volumes).</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Jane</div>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          style="margin:0px
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                                                          <div
                                                          bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                                          text="#000000"><span><font
color="#888888"><br>
                                                          <pre cols="72">-- 
Patrick C. Shriwise
Research Assistant
University of Wisconsin - Madison
Engineering Research Building - Rm. 428
1500 Engineering Drive
Madison, WI 53706
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28608%29%20446-8173" value="+16084468173" target="_blank">(608) 446-8173</a>
</pre>
                                                          </font></span></div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Jane Hu<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Asst.
                                                          Researcher<br>
                                                          Dept. of
                                                          Engineering
                                                          Physics<br>
                                                          UW @ Madison<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          "And we know
                                                          that for those
                                                          who love God,
                                                          that is, for
                                                          those who are
                                                          called
                                                          according to
                                                          his purpose,
                                                          all things are
                                                          working
                                                          together for
                                                          good." (Romans
                                                          8:28) </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br
                                                          clear="all">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Jane Hu<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Asst.
                                                          Researcher<br>
                                                          Dept. of
                                                          Engineering
                                                          Physics<br>
                                                          UW @ Madison<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          "And we know
                                                          that for those
                                                          who love God,
                                                          that is, for
                                                          those who are
                                                          called
                                                          according to
                                                          his purpose,
                                                          all things are
                                                          working
                                                          together for
                                                          good." (Romans
                                                          8:28) </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </blockquote>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </blockquote>
                                            </div>
                                            <br>
                                            <br clear="all">
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            -- <br>
                                            Jane Hu<br>
                                            <br>
                                            Asst. Researcher<br>
                                            Dept. of Engineering Physics<br>
                                            UW @ Madison<br>
                                            <br>
                                            "And we know that for those
                                            who love God, that is, for
                                            those who are called
                                            according to his purpose,
                                            all things are working
                                            together for good." (Romans
                                            8:28) </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </blockquote>
                                  </div>
                                  <br>
                                  <br clear="all">
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  -- <br>
                                  Jane Hu<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Asst. Researcher<br>
                                  Dept. of Engineering Physics<br>
                                  UW @ Madison<br>
                                  <br>
                                  "And we know that for those who love
                                  God, that is, for those who are called
                                  according to his purpose, all things
                                  are working together for good."
                                  (Romans 8:28) </div>
                              </blockquote>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <pre cols="72">-- 
-- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ --
Paul Wilson ~ UW-Madison ~ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:608-263-0807" value="+16082630807" target="_blank">608-263-0807</a> ~ cal: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/pphw-cal" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/pphw-cal</a>
Professor, Engineering Physics. ~ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu" target="_blank">http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu</a>
Faculty Director, Advanced Computing Infrastructure</pre>
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                        </div>
                      </blockquote>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div class="h5"><br>
                    <br clear="all">
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    -- <br>
                    Jane Hu<br>
                    <br>
                    Asst. Researcher<br>
                    Dept. of Engineering Physics<br>
                    UW @ Madison<br>
                    <br>
                    "And we know that for those who love God, that is,
                    for those who are called according to his purpose,
                    all things are working together for good." (Romans
                    8:28)
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
        <br>
        <br clear="all">
        <div><br>
        </div>
        -- <br>
        Jane Hu<br>
        <br>
        Asst. Researcher<br>
        Dept. of Engineering Physics<br>
        UW @ Madison<br>
        <br>
        "And we know that for those who love God, that is, for those who
        are called according to his purpose, all things are working
        together for good." (Romans 8:28)
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
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Paul Wilson ~ UW-Madison ~ 608-263-0807 ~ cal: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://bit.ly/pphw-cal">http://bit.ly/pphw-cal</a>
Professor, Engineering Physics. ~ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu">http://cnerg.engr.wisc.edu</a>
Faculty Director, Advanced Computing Infrastructure</pre>
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