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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Colleagues<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I am sending out a draft copy of the meeting notes, from the “AG Continuation of Services Meeting” which was held on the 8/9 of May 2012.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I recognise that the notes are very “rough” and apologise in advance for any errors, but I want to get some information out to the public as soon as possible, especially to those who were unable to attend.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Please feel free to comment on the notes and advise on any aspects of the content or errors within the draft notes.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>From a personal note, I was very happy to see the number of participants for the meeting and look forward to the next meeting (which I will advertise shortly).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Many regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jason.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid #4F81BD 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 4.0pt 0cm'><p class=MsoTitleCxSpFirst align=center style='text-align:center'>AG Continuation of Services Meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoTitleCxSpLast align=center style='text-align:center'>8/9 of May 2012<o:p></o:p></p></div><h1>Attendees <span style='font-size:11.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext;font-weight:normal'>(apologises if I missed anyone)<o:p></o:p></span></h1><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>CQ University – Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>University of Newcastle – Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>University of Queensland - Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>University Technology Sydney – Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>University of British Columbia – Canada<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Massey University – New Zealand<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><em><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-style:normal'>Victoria University of Wellington</span></em><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> – New Zealand<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>University of Otago - New Zealand<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>University of Canterbury - New Zealand<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>University of Auckland - New Zealand<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Universidad de VIGO – Spain<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>University of Manchester – UK<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Argonne National Laboratory – United States<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><em><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-style:normal'>University of California, San Francisco</span></em><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> – United States<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.rit.edu/"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>Rochester Institute of Technology</span></a> - United States<o:p></o:p></span></p><h1>Topics discussed<o:p></o:p></h1><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Cut over date is 1st of June – therefore need to begin migration ASAP.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Current release of Access Grid Toolkit has many instances of "mcs.anl.gov" (45 occurrences was mention).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Code will need to be modified and new packages released (main priority?)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> DNS redirected was discussed, though it was decided that this should be implemented as a backup strategy<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>There are a number of services (Jabber, Venue Server, etc) that are based on mcs.anl.gov addresses;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Issuing of certificates is one of the primary services that use the mac.anl.gov address;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Questions were asked whether DNS redirection is possible (ANL will have to implement this) and whether all services will still work;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Discussions indicated that it would be preferable to modify source code and produce new packages. DNS redirections would be a backup strategy to “catch” the current users who don’t upgrade initially;<br clear=all style='page-break-before:always'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>New Access Grid packages<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Linux releases (which are done by Chris Willing and Doug Kosovic) is relatively simple to create and can be produced any time. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mac and Windows releases are currently created by the ANL development Team (mostly Tom Uram) and moving forward, other groups will need to provide assistance in producing these packages in the future. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Windows bundler installer – Nathan Gardiner currently grabs the windows AGTK version and includes additional packages to produce a bundle installer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bundle is dependent on existing Access Grid Package<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Nathan would be happy to make the bundler installer code available on a repository and/or to update the script to include any new packages that are built;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ANL (Most Tom) cannot guarantee to provide the effort required to produce new packages;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Though, a computer is still configured to produce new packages and Tom (ANL) would be happy to assist in transferring the knowledge and configuration required to produce windows packages;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mac system setup to produce packages is simpler than system to produce windows AGTK packages;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ANL will assist in providing documentation on how to configure a system to build new Windows and Mac AGTK Packages<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Andrew (University Newcastle) and Fraser (University of Otago) will investigate the requirements for building Windows Packages – but no guarantees were provided<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>No interest was given to provide Mac/s packaging support<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>New windows packages should be able to be produced easily, but will require testing.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ANL is not sure about Mac environment, but will have to check if environment still exists.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:144.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If you build on Leopard and explicitly set python to 2.5, it should work on all new MAC OSX (latest 3 releases) platforms<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In regards to the Windows Package, the multicast beacon needs to be disabled to ensure it works for windows 7 users.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><b><i><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>A possible way to overcome the need to produce new packages, would be to produce a script which users would run, which manually changes the mac.anl.gov addresses to new destinations;<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It was suggested and recommended that vic and rat be decoupled from the AGTK installation, which would simplify the building of the AGTK package <br clear=all style='page-break-before:always'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Access Grid Services<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hosting services, single location, services split out amongst different groups;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Long Term View – Would be great to have failover, but it will take a while to support and implement<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Short Term View – Just need a few services hosted somewhere to ensure continuation of AG services.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:144.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Issuing of Certificates <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Certificates are required for running and “Server” on a Clients entering an Access Controlled Venue;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>There are a couple of options, these being: Central cert authority; or self-signed. But, these will need to be further investigated;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Initially – any new certificate that is signed will last for two years, thereby, it is recommended that new certificates are requested, which will work as a transition mechanism, until a final solution is determined and implemented;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Unicast Bridge Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>An option could be to run a number of regional bridge registries, in which the code would need to be modified to point to these systems.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Default Venue Server <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Questions were raised whether the default venue server should point to an existing server, a new “basic” default server (which someone implements) or replicate the ANL Venue Server.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Issues were raised that using a “basic” default server cannot point to other Venue Servers (code bug) after the Venue Server is rebooted<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Chris Willing offered to host a combined Jabber and Venue Server instance which will act as the default service.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:144.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level4 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The Default Venue Server will be based on the ANL Venue Server, therefore all the current venues will remain the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jabber Server <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Chris Willing offered to host a combined Jabber and Venue Server instance which will act as the default service.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto'><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Access Grid website<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>This will need to be migrated and hosted<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level3 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Todd (UBC) was recommended to be contacted to see if he could assist with the migration and hosting of the server.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Mailing Lists<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>AG-Tech and AG-Dev should be continued<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Source forge mailing list are somewhat problematic and difficult to use<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It was recommend that someone should host our own Mailing list – request volunteers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Currently using mailman<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>A suggestion was to use google groups<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Accessgrid.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ANL would be happy to transfer the domain;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>People are comfortable that this is should be the generic domain and name of future and transitioning services;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Note sure of current hosting costs, but it was mentioned that generally, hosting a domain name costs around $35us.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Domains do a 5 year subscription and costs around $300nz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Whois enquiry produces:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:144.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Domain Name:ACCESSGRID.ORG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:144.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Created On:16-Sep-1999 16:24:54 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:144.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Last Updated On:10-Sep-2008 20:14:29 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:144.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;line-height:normal;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Expiration Date:16-Sep-2013 16:24:54 UTC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>David (University of Newcastle) offered to take ownership and of the domain name (for a couple of years) until long term planning and the AG organisation can be implemented.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Services to initially use this domain name would be <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:144.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>“Global/Default” Venue Server<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:144.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Bridge Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:144.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level4 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jabber Server<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:180.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level5 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Specialised Jabber version and long term solutions need to be considered, ie, use different product etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Code repository<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Where do we keep the code? Overwhelming support for source forge to host the code.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Source Forge was recommended and it was suggested to continue to use SVN, which will provide easy transferal for code hosting;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Two pronged approach<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Short term approach – apply redirect or patch to code<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Long term approach (correct solution) – Update code and create packages<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Begin the source code migration straight away and with any updates, apply to both repositories (to assist ANL to potential produce one last package for windows and Mac/s)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Organisation Group<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It was suggested that there should be an Access Grid Organisation, with a charter and administration group. Thought, this is considered more of a long term project.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Development resources<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To ensure long term jevity, Access Grid will need more / new developers to cater for new operating system dependencies and resources are limiting current AG users/operators to contribute.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ULC (Piers) is no longer actively developing “vic” or “rat”<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Should the vic and rat repository be moved (or at least) hosted under the new repository as well?<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Need to find new developers;<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It is hoped that moving the code to source forge may assist to encouraging new developers, as previous road blocks with development contribution may be removed<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Other scenarios that might encourage future developers<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>FFMPEG is a very active community, they have some relevance with AG, can we leverage (build a bridge) off that or look how they operate?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Multicast address allocation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Will there be any issues?<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>There is currently no way to coordinate Multicast addresses between Venue Servers (without using static addresses)<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>There is this notion of GLOP space, in which institutions “own” their own space, but the AG addresses used are not part of the ANL space.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>AG currently by default uses the 224.2.*.* space <b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>There is a possibility of conflicts, but general experience indicates that conflicts general occur at present<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>IPv6 multicast will be more complicated<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Multicast Beacon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>DBeacon the only viable multicast beacon. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:108.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level3 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Wingdings'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>§<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Allows users to produce webpage that shows multicast matrix<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Need someone to nominate webpages to view this information<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Could be easily hosted on <a href="http://www.accessgrid.org">www.accessgrid.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNoSpacing><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>AG bugzilla <b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Source forge might be used<b> </b>to track bugs / issues<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Issue with automated bug tracking – may have to disable “submit bug” feature on Venue Client.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><h1>Action Items<o:p></o:p></h1><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tom Uram (ANL) to ask whether DNS redirection is possible, but expects it not to be a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tom needs to check Mac build environment (to see if environment still exists.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Suggest building on Leopard and explicitly set python to 2.5, it should work on all new MAC OSX (latest 3 releases) platforms<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Package testing will need to be conducted by many groups;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jason Bell – Will draft and send an email to various mailings list – recommending that all AG Venue Server operators/managers and anyone using identity certificates to enter Access Controlled Venue to request new certificate before cut-off date.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jason Bell – Obtain a list of regional Unicast Bridge Registries<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Chris Willing – to setup and host a combined Jabber and Venue Server instance which will act as the default service.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='margin-left:72.0pt;mso-add-space:auto;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As a side note: Chris – maybe you could run a Bridge Registry as well on this system<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>David (University of Newcastle) to investigate taking ownership of the accessgrid.org domain name<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jason Bell, to contact Todd (UBC) to see if he could assist with migration and hosting of the <a href="http://www.accessgrid.org">www.accessgrid.org</a> website.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jason Bell, find volunteer to host mailing lists (AG-Tech and AG-Dev)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Need to follow up long term support and management of AG Scheduler<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Need to follow up on bugzilla – source forge might be able to be used<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jason Bell, to send out meeting outcomes and actions<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jason Bell, to send out notification of next meeting (which will be in less than two week’s time)<o:p></o:p></span></p><h1>Code Action Items<o:p></o:p></h1><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Find instances of anl.gov and replace with new address (most likely accessgrid.org equivalents)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Update default Venue Server Address (example: venueserver.accessgrid.org)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The multicast beacon needs to be disabled by default, to ensure it works for windows 7 users.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraphCxSpLast style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Disable “submit bug” feature on Venue Client.<b><o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Jason Bell, B.I.T. (Honours)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Video Collaboration Champion<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Queensland Cyber Infrastructure Foundation<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.qcif.edu.au/">http://www.qcif.edu.au/</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>ARCS eResearch Collaborative Services<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.arcs.org.au/">http://www.arcs.org.au/</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Senior Research Technologies Officer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Information Technology Directorate<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>CQ University Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.cqu.edu.au/">http://www.cqu.edu.au/</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>E-mail : <a href="mailto:j.bell@cqu.edu.au">j.bell@cqu.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <a href="mailto:j.bell@qcif.edu.au">j.bell@qcif.edu.au</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <a href="mailto:jason.bell@arcs.org.au">jason.bell@arcs.org.au</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Work : +61 7 4930 9229<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Mobile : 0409 630897<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Postal : Building 19, Room 1.55<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Central Queensland University<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Bruce Highway<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia, 4702<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Patience is a virtue.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>But if I wanted Patience,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I would have become a Doctor.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-------------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>