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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the tip. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Within my Fedora 12 install, I see an application called “GoToVenue”.
By issuing the command:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> GoToVenue --url <a
href="https://vv3.ap-accessgrid.org:8000/Venues/default">https://vv3.ap-accessgrid.org:8000/Venues/default</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I can make the Venue Client actually change to the APAG Lobby (<a
href="https://vv3.ap-accessgrid.org:8000/Venues/default">https://vv3.ap-accessgrid.org:8000/Venues/default</a>).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Looks like there are many possibilities.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Thomas Uram [mailto:turam@mcs.anl.gov] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 7 August 2010 04:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jason Bell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AG-TECH] Automating the start-up and shutdown of the
Access Grid<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Jason:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>A couple things exist already which will help you with this
project. One is the GoToVenue.py script which is basically the browser helper
application for entering a venue by clicking on a .vv3d link in a webpage. You
can find this script here in the SVN repo:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="https://trac.ci.uchicago.edu/accessgrid/browser/trunk/tools/GoToVenue.py">https://trac.ci.uchicago.edu/accessgrid/browser/trunk/tools/GoToVenue.py</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Also, you asked about how the venue client can be
controlled. There is documentation of the SOAP interface on the venue client
here:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a
href="http://accessgrid.org/files/developer/api/3.1/index.html">http://accessgrid.org/files/developer/api/3.1/index.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The SOAP interface is used by the GoToVenue.py script, so
you can use that as an example for calling any of the other methods listed in
the documentation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>If you have any questions on this, I'd be happy to help. The
SOAP interface applies to all of the AG components, creating some real
opportunities for the work you're pursuing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Tom<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Aug 6, 2010, at 1:49 AM, Jason Bell wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>G’day All</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I thought I would provide an update on the development of ideas
and to thanks those for feedback.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Firstly, I would like thank Colin Campbell for the idea of “soft
power-on” of the AG machines, then with auto login and startup scripts, AG can
be started. This is a novel idea, but I am hoping to be able to have the
software started with the machines already running.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The idea that I am currently considering is using the AMX system
to control the AG software through RS-323. I was hopping to be able to
have some sort of communication over Ethernet, but from initial investigate it
doesn’t seem like that is somewhat possible and RS-323 might be simpler anyway.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As was pointed out to me (thanks Doug), Linux can operate as a
serial console and commands can be send to the system via RS-232. See<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Serial/serial-console.html"><span
style='color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'>http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Serial/serial-console.html</span></a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>for “Linux Serial Console HOWTO” for
more information.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Additionally it occurred to me (but thanks to Gabriel who also
mentioned it) that you can “export” the display, thereby having the GUI
applications start locally on the machines.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Also, Gabriel mentioned the “</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>—url<span style='color:#1F497D'>” command
that can be used to start the VenueClient. This will mean that you can
start the application in any Venue you like.</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Therefore, I was thinking about having a script that checks to
see if the Venue Client is already running and if not, export the display and
start the Venue Client in a designated Venue.</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Of course all of this is in theory but it seems doable.
The hack for shutting down the AG is to execute a “kill” script that kills all
AG services and processes.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>So, I have a few additional questions now:</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can the Venue Client be
controlled (via command line – maybe a python script) to do things.. IE,
change Virtual Venues, start a shared app, etc…</span><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Symbol;color:#1F497D'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I see the Venue Client has
the following option:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>VenueClient
-h</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Options:</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
-p PORT, --port=PORT Set the port the venueclient control interface</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
should listen on.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>
What can this control interface actually do?</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If anyone has done this sort of thing before, or has some
additional items that could be contributed to this project, I would like to
hear from you.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Many thanks for your time.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jason.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a
href="mailto:ag-tech-bounces@lists.mcs.anl.gov">ag-tech-bounces@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:ag-tech-bounces@lists.mcs.anl.gov]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Jason Bell<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, 5 August
2010 09:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov">ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[AG-TECH]
Automating the start-up and shutdown of the Access Grid</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>G’day
All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
am hoping that there are a number of people out there that might have
experience, or at least be able to provide advice on a few questions that I
have in regards to automating the start-up and shutdown of the Access
Grid, particularly the Venue Client itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Note:
I am only considering options where the AG computing systems are run on Linux
(particularly Fedora).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>A
project that I am currently looking at, is being able to automate, or at the
very least, simplify the process of starting and shutting down an Access Grid.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Therefore
I am looking towards AMX controlling an AG room. Now I appreciate that
controlling cameras, projectors and/or LCD screens, lighting and general AV
gear can be done via the AMX system, but what I am also wanting to know is how
much of the AG software could possibly be controlled via some sort of remote
system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Therefore,
some random question I have include:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Can the Venue Client be started remotely,
say via ssh (I know that this can be done, but here are the issues)???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The Venue Client needs to be displayed on
the AG system (not using X forwarding), so that local users can start, modify
and change anything within the application;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Can you, using command line variables,
force the Venue Client to start within a particular Virtual Venue??? It
would be nice to have a few default Venues presets configured.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>o</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Are there any API’s or the likes that I
might be able to “Tap in to” to assist with starting and stopping of the AGTK.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'>·</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt'> <span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Has anyone used AMX equipment (or similar
type of equipment) to not only control AV equipment, but to control the AGTK as
well.. If you have, how and what can you do???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
guess the reason why I am asking is that the “Access Grid” is typically
considered “too hard” and requires someone with some AG knowledge to be able
to, at the very least, start-up and shutdown the system. Whether we like
it or not, the AG is compared to H.323 video conferencing and there are many
way to have a H.323 system automatically start and stop, record and the likes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>What
I am hoping to not only investigate, but to implement, is what can be done so
that a user can walk into a room based AG system, press a button on a touch
panel that says “start”... Not only will all the AV gear power on, etc,
but at the very least, have the Venue Client start... But having this
control via a touch panel, I am also hoping to be able to remotely control the
system as well through inbuilt web server access, which will allow people from
a remote location the ability to control cameras and the ability to remotely
start-up and shutdown the system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
realise that you can remotely control a AG software from VNC (which I have been
doing for years), but I want to extremely simplify things. Having a big
green button which starts things and a Red button to stop things... I
also realise that some additional effort will be required by the user if any
shared applications is in use, but if we can make it a whole lot easier, that
would be a great start. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Additionally,
there are things like devilspie (<a href="http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie">http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie</a>)
which might be useful in forcing certain applications to start on particular
screen. Thereby, if things can be automated to start, particular
applications (such as vic, rat, VNC (as in VenueVNC)) can be forced to start on
particular screens.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anyway,
if anyone has any comments and or experience in running such said systems, I
would like to hear from you. Note, if I manage to get anything remotely
working, I will document and post to the Global AG website.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Many
thanks for your time,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Jason.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>--------------------------------------------<br>
Jason Bell, B.I.T. (Honours)<br>
<br>
Video Collaboration Team Leader<br>
Australian Research Collaboration Service<br>
<a href="http://www.arcs.org.au/" target="_blank">http://www.arcs.org.au/</a><br>
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Research Systems Support Officer<br>
Information Technology Division<br>
CQ University Australia<br>
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E-mail :<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:j.bell@cqu.edu.au">j.bell@cqu.edu.au</a><br>
<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:jason.bell@arcs.org.au">jason.bell@arcs.org.au</a><br>
Work : +61 7 4930 9229<br>
Mobile : 0409 630897<br>
Postal : Building 19<br>
Central Queensland University<br>
Bruce Highway<br>
Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia, 4702<br>
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Patience is a virtue.<br>
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But if I wanted Patience,<br>
I would have become a Doctor.<br>
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font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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