<html><head><base href="x-msg://153/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Jason:<div><br></div><div>A couple things exist already which will help you with this project. One is the GoToVenue.py script which is basically the browser helper application for entering a venue by clicking on a .vv3d link in a webpage. You can find this script here in the SVN repo:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://trac.ci.uchicago.edu/accessgrid/browser/trunk/tools/GoToVenue.py">https://trac.ci.uchicago.edu/accessgrid/browser/trunk/tools/GoToVenue.py</a></div><div><br></div><div>Also, you asked about how the venue client can be controlled. There is documentation of the SOAP interface on the venue client here:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://accessgrid.org/files/developer/api/3.1/index.html">http://accessgrid.org/files/developer/api/3.1/index.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>The SOAP interface is used by the GoToVenue.py script, so you can use that as an example for calling any of the other methods listed in the documentation.</div><div><br></div><div>If you have any questions on this, I'd be happy to help. The SOAP interface applies to all of the AG components, creating some real opportunities for the work you're pursuing.</div><div><br></div><div>Tom</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Aug 6, 2010, at 1:49 AM, Jason Bell wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">G’day All<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I thought I would provide an update on the development of ideas and to thanks those for feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Firstly, I would like thank Colin Campbell for the idea of “soft power-on” of the AG machines, then with auto login and startup scripts, AG can be started. This is a novel idea, but I am hoping to be able to have the software started with the machines already running.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The idea that I am currently considering is using the AMX system to control the AG software through RS-323. I was hopping to be able to have some sort of communication over Ethernet, but from initial investigate it doesn’t seem like that is somewhat possible and RS-323 might be simpler anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">As was pointed out to me (thanks Doug), Linux can operate as a serial console and commands can be send to the system via RS-232. See<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Serial/serial-console.html" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-decoration: none; ">http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Serial/serial-console.html</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for “Linux Serial Console HOWTO” for more information.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Additionally it occurred to me (but thanks to Gabriel who also mentioned it) that you can “export” the display, thereby having the GUI applications start locally on the machines.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Also, Gabriel mentioned the “</span>—url<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">” command that can be used to start the VenueClient. This will mean that you can start the application in any Venue you like.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Therefore, I was thinking about having a script that checks to see if the Venue Client is already running and if not, export the display and start the Venue Client in a designated Venue.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Of course all of this is in theory but it seems doable. The hack for shutting down the AG is to execute a “kill” script that kills all AG services and processes.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">So, I have a few additional questions now:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-family: Symbol; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span>·<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Can the Venue Client be controlled (via command line – maybe a python script) to do things.. IE, change Virtual Venues, start a shared app, etc…<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-family: Symbol; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span>·<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">I see the Venue Client has the following option:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; ">VenueClient -h<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; ">Options:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "> -p PORT, --port=PORT Set the port the venueclient control interface<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "> should listen on.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> What can this control interface actually do?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">If anyone has done this sort of thing before, or has some additional items that could be contributed to this project, I would like to hear from you.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Many thanks for your time.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Jason.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0cm; padding-left: 0cm; "><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ag-tech-bounces@lists.mcs.anl.gov" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ag-tech-bounces@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:ag-tech-bounces@lists.mcs.anl.gov]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Jason Bell<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, 5 August 2010 09:53 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[AG-TECH] Automating the start-up and shutdown of the Access Grid<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">G’day All<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I am hoping that there are a number of people out there that might have experience, or at least be able to provide advice on a few questions that I have in regards to automating the start-up and shutdown of the Access Grid, particularly the Venue Client itself.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Note: I am only considering options where the AG computing systems are run on Linux (particularly Fedora).<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">A project that I am currently looking at, is being able to automate, or at the very least, simplify the process of starting and shutting down an Access Grid.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Therefore I am looking towards AMX controlling an AG room. Now I appreciate that controlling cameras, projectors and/or LCD screens, lighting and general AV gear can be done via the AMX system, but what I am also wanting to know is how much of the AG software could possibly be controlled via some sort of remote system.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Therefore, some random question I have include:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-family: Symbol; "><span>·<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>Can the Venue Client be started remotely, say via ssh (I know that this can be done, but here are the issues)???<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 72pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span>o<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>The Venue Client needs to be displayed on the AG system (not using X forwarding), so that local users can start, modify and change anything within the application;<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 72pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span>o<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>Can you, using command line variables, force the Venue Client to start within a particular Virtual Venue??? It would be nice to have a few default Venues presets configured.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 72pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; "><span>o<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>Are there any API’s or the likes that I might be able to “Tap in to” to assist with starting and stopping of the AGTK.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 72pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -18pt; "><span style="font-family: Symbol; "><span>·<span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>Has anyone used AMX equipment (or similar type of equipment) to not only control AV equipment, but to control the AGTK as well.. If you have, how and what can you do???<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I guess the reason why I am asking is that the “Access Grid” is typically considered “too hard” and requires someone with some AG knowledge to be able to, at the very least, start-up and shutdown the system. Whether we like it or not, the AG is compared to H.323 video conferencing and there are many way to have a H.323 system automatically start and stop, record and the likes.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">What I am hoping to not only investigate, but to implement, is what can be done so that a user can walk into a room based AG system, press a button on a touch panel that says “start”... Not only will all the AV gear power on, etc, but at the very least, have the Venue Client start... But having this control via a touch panel, I am also hoping to be able to remotely control the system as well through inbuilt web server access, which will allow people from a remote location the ability to control cameras and the ability to remotely start-up and shutdown the system.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I realise that you can remotely control a AG software from VNC (which I have been doing for years), but I want to extremely simplify things. Having a big green button which starts things and a Red button to stop things... I also realise that some additional effort will be required by the user if any shared applications is in use, but if we can make it a whole lot easier, that would be a great start. <o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Additionally, there are things like devilspie (<a href="http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://live.gnome.org/DevilsPie</a>) which might be useful in forcing certain applications to start on particular screen. Thereby, if things can be automated to start, particular applications (such as vic, rat, VNC (as in VenueVNC)) can be forced to start on particular screens.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Anyway, if anyone has any comments and or experience in running such said systems, I would like to hear from you. Note, if I manage to get anything remotely working, I will document and post to the Global AG website.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Many thanks for your time,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Jason.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span style="font-family: 'Courier New'; ">--------------------------------------------<br>Jason Bell, B.I.T. (Honours)<br><br>Video Collaboration Team Leader<br>Australian Research Collaboration Service<br><a href="http://www.arcs.org.au/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.arcs.org.au/</a><br><br>Research Systems Support Officer<br>Information Technology Division<br>CQ University Australia<br><br>E-mail :<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:j.bell@cqu.edu.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">j.bell@cqu.edu.au</a><br> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jason.bell@arcs.org.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">jason.bell@arcs.org.au</a><br>Work : +61 7 4930 9229<br>Mobile : 0409 630897<br>Postal : Building 19<br> Central Queensland University<br> Bruce Highway<br> Rockhampton, Queensland, Australia, 4702<br>--------------------------------------------<br>Patience is a virtue.<br><br>But if I wanted Patience,<br>I would have become a Doctor.<br>--------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>