Hi Tom, <div><br></div><div>Recently, I tried to connect the AG in some nodes at RIT. I cannot be able to connect through AG software and message said that " <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; border-collapse: collapse; ">Error Entering Venue Connection Refused</span>" Who is the responsible for connecting the Access Grid using server ? NSCA ? or ANL ? why not own through RIT server ? </div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks </div><div><br></div><div>-Aabhas Garg </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:33 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ag-tech-request@lists.mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">ag-tech-request@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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4. Re: Asking again... (pythonw fails on windows) (Bob Huebert)<br>
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:05:43 -0700<br>
From: Jimmy Miklavcic <<a href="mailto:jimmy.miklavcic@utah.edu" target="_blank">jimmy.miklavcic@utah.edu</a>><br>
Subject: [AG-TECH] Jabber server.<br>
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I am unable to connect to the jabber server. Can some one please make it start jabbering again?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Jimmy<br>
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:31:35 -0600<br>
From: Thomas Uram <<a href="mailto:turam@mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">turam@mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] Jabber server.<br>
To: Jimmy Miklavcic <<a href="mailto:jimmy.miklavcic@utah.edu" target="_blank">jimmy.miklavcic@utah.edu</a>><br>
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We've encountered some network problems which are responsible for this<br>
outage. I'm talking with our network admins now to restore service.<br>
I'll send a follow-up notice to the list when it's recovered.<br>
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Tom<br>
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> I am unable to connect to the jabber server. Can some one please<br>
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> Thanks,<br>
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:33:44 -0500<br>
From: Aabhas Garg <<a href="mailto:aabhasgarg@gmail.com" target="_blank">aabhasgarg@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hi, Nagykaldi<br>
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I think that it is successfully running AG on Windows 7 under compatibility<br>
of Win XP (right click the AG Icon and then properties) .<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
Aabhas<br>
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> I wonder if any of you have seen this issue:<br>
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> Win XP SP2, standard setup, firewall, antivirus off. AG Toolkit 3.2<br>
> properly installed. When the venue client starts the process phytonw is<br>
> killed in 3 seconds after it is fired up, killing the client as well. When I<br>
> down-grade to v3.1 (beta 1 or 2), the client is not killed any more, but it<br>
> gets stuck at the "loading node configuration" step and never proceeds. I<br>
> haven't seen this before and I would appreciate your insights. I tried<br>
> everything I could think of.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Also, any success with running AG on Windows 7 ?<br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
><br>
><br>
> ZsoltNagykaldi, PhD<br>
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><br>
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From: Bob Huebert <<a href="mailto:huebert@arsc.edu" target="_blank">huebert@arsc.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] Asking again... (pythonw fails on windows)<br>
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I'm also seeing consistent failures of pythonw shortly after starting the<br>
client. This is on Windows7 32bit.<br>
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Not real sure what to look at first. Suggestions?<br>
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-bob<br>
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> I wonder if any of you have seen this issue:<br>
><br>
> Win XP SP2, standard setup, firewall, antivirus off. AG Toolkit 3.2 properly installed. When the venue client starts the process phytonw is killed in 3 seconds after it is fired up, killing the client as well. When I down-grade to v3.1 (beta 1 or 2), the client is not killed any more, but it gets stuck at the "loading node configuration" step and never proceeds. I haven't seen this before and I would appreciate your insights. I tried everything I could think of.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Also, any success with running AG on Windows 7 ?<br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
><br>
><br>
> ZsoltNagykaldi, PhD<br>
> Assistant Professor of Research<br>
> Clinical IT Specialist<br>
><br>
> University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center<br>
> Department of Family & Preventive Medicine<br>
> 900 N.E. 10th Street<br>
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:45:03 -0600<br>
From: "John I. Quebedeaux, Jr" <<a href="mailto:johnq@lsu.edu" target="_blank">johnq@lsu.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] Asking again... (pythonw fails on windows)<br>
To: Bob Huebert <<a href="mailto:huebert@arsc.edu" target="_blank">huebert@arsc.edu</a>>, <<a href="mailto:ag-tech@lists.mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">ag-tech@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
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My guy Chris (tech student) installed it on WIn7 32 bit today and noted<br>
this:<br>
<br>
" need to add C:\python24 to the path "<br>
<br>
-John Q.<br>
<br>
P.s. He also noted he didn't remember having to do that for 64 bit, but will<br>
check again as we're testing another system w/64 bit shortly.<br>
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> From: Bob Huebert <<a href="mailto:huebert@arsc.edu" target="_blank">huebert@arsc.edu</a>><br>
> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:09:35 -0900 (AKST)<br>
> To: <<a href="mailto:ag-tech@lists.mcs.anl.gov" target="_blank">ag-tech@lists.mcs.anl.gov</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] Asking again... (pythonw fails on windows)<br>
><br>
> I'm also seeing consistent failures of pythonw shortly after starting the<br>
> client. This is on Windows7 32bit.<br>
><br>
> Not real sure what to look at first. Suggestions?<br>
><br>
> -bob<br>
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>> Win XP SP2, standard setup, firewall, antivirus off. AG Toolkit 3.2 properly<br>
>> installed. When the venue client starts the process phytonw is killed in 3<br>
>> seconds after it is fired up, killing the client as well. When I down-grade<br>
>> to v3.1 (beta 1 or 2), the client is not killed any more, but it gets stuck<br>
>> at the "loading node configuration" step and never proceeds. I haven't seen<br>
>> this before and I would appreciate your insights. I tried everything I could<br>
>> think of.<br>
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>> Also, any success with running AG on Windows 7 ?<br>
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>> Thanks!<br>
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>> ZsoltNagykaldi, PhD<br>
>> Assistant Professor of Research<br>
>> Clinical IT Specialist<br>
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>> University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center<br>
>> Department of Family & Preventive Medicine<br>
>> 900 N.E. 10th Street<br>
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73104<br>
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:32:37 +0100<br>
From: "Philippe d'Anfray" <<a href="mailto:Philippe.d-Anfray@cea.fr" target="_blank">Philippe.d-Anfray@cea.fr</a>><br>
Subject: [AG-TECH] Ubuntu 9.10<br>
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Bonjour,<br>
<br>
Some good and bad news about Ubuntu 9.10<br>
<br>
1) (good) ... recently we had various problems with RAT which always<br>
crashed after a few minutes on our ubuntu server.. Clearly it was<br>
because of the Creative driver for X-FI cards. Now a new driver comes<br>
with the 9.10 distrib and it appears to work perfectly.<br>
<br>
2) (bad) BuT when we plug in a logitech webcam VIC only gives (what we<br>
call in french) noodles..<br>
although thoses web-cams work perfectly with other softwares on the same<br>
machine ?? has anyone noticed that also ?????<br>
<br>
Cordialement<br>
<br>
Philippe<br>
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