<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">It takes... time. And then, it depends on what sites are using and what the purpose your AG was installed with. In our case, the AG was put into place for a specific use. Any other use was (is) encouraged and welcome, so we've been broadening the use that way - but without a specific use and sites to use it with it will just sit there. I've been supporting the AG as a state wide infrastructure (which reminds me to get more documentation out...) and as a result communication and collaboration have been a bit tighter and sites more "successful" at deploying. I'm only one person though, and starting to really get stretched thin now that it's starting to take off as the network infrastructure to support it is taking off.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"><DIV><DIV>I'm usually happy when the AG infrastructure here supports meetings where folks (researchers) can have a good argument without technology getting in the way. We still have networking issues - which usually present 95% of our problems with AG meetings - i just keep chipping away at that portion. I can say that an upcoming I2 multicast workshop will have many louisiana network/computer managers attending because of my... chipping away!</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>By the way: there are no less than 10 events scheduled today on AGSchedule (agschedule.ncsa.uiuc.edu) which is one place many sites use for their scheduling needs and for providing information to other sites to find their info, etc. On the other hand, that doesn't mean all those events are "open" and it's polite to check with the creator of an event before you jump in unsolicited... but you can often go there and see what is scheduled in advance.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>-John Q.</DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Jan 16, 2007, at 7:16 AM, Jeffrey Miller wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="country-region"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"><DIV class="Section1"><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Here at ND, we installed an InSORS grid system. I’ve informed all the deans, department chairs and even specific instructors about our grid and its great uses.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><U style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; "><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">No response</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></U><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">. I had an open house and demonstrated its capabilities… had about 6 people showed up and </SPAN><U style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">one</SPAN></U><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> of them was an instructor.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">We’re going to do a University wide mailing of a brochure showing what the AG can do as ND is moving toward being a research University. But… I can bring the horses to the trough but I can’t make em drink so to speak. The AG is a “nice to have” but its not at this time a “need to have” and until that happens I’m afraid the usage will be a novelty. We also just installed a Polycom 9004 HDX as we are finding that A. its easy to use, B. you can collaborate easier on it, C. more people have em. (Polycom that is) We didn’t want to have to dedicate software engineers and other technicians to build and maintain an actual AG node. So we went with InSORS, who did a pretty good job at setting us up and their tech support is GREAT. But… the InSORS cube has a lot of issues, they don’t even have a basic wiring diagram of their product… I had to draw one and give it to em. They also don’t have a system to integrate into a “control room” scenario. Its designed to sit in the back of the room its being used in. The equipment is packed so tightly into the cube that maintenance is very difficult. We’re going to pull it all out and re-rack it. But I wish we had an AG community like </SPAN><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">England</SPAN></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> does. We need to have better demo’s and a better strategy on how we can lure researchers to our room to use it. I never know who is giving presentations to the AG community. There is no site that I know of that we all can go to, to see who is presenting.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">We’ve hooked up with </SPAN><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Los Alamos</SPAN></ST1:PLACE><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> a few times but I have to go fishing to find out who is presenting. IF we could know who is presenting to the AG community at large a week or two ahead of time then I could get the word out to our faculty here and then garner some real interest. Otherwise, its all just point-to-point.</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Thanks for listening to my venting…</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Jeff</SPAN><O:P style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;color:black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Jeffrey L. 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font-size: 13.3333px; ">"It's a privilege to work at Notre Dame..."</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Arial"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "><O:P style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 13.3333px; "></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV><DIV><DIV class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; "></SPAN><HR size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><B style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; font-weight: bold; "><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">From:</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size="2" face="Tahoma"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN><ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><A href="mailto:owner-ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov">owner-ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov</A></SPAN></ST1:PERSONNAME><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "> [mailto:</SPAN><ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><A href="mailto:owner-ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov">owner-ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov</A></SPAN></ST1:PERSONNAME><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; ">] </SPAN><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of </SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Jason Bell</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "> Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:02 AM</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">To:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "> Derek Piper; <A href="mailto:ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov">ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov</A></SPAN><BR style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><B style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; "><SPAN style="font-weight:bold; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 13.3333px; "> RE: [AG-TECH] Fading AG usage?</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P></DIV><P class="MsoNormal"><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">G'day Derek and All</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">I have been meaning to reply to this email for some time now, but have been caught up with a number of things.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Firstly, I must concur with most of the other comments in regards that for my perspective, AG usage is increasing.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">If I may voice my opinion, I thought I would provide</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">some perspective from</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">my Australian point of view and also</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">from</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">a QA</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">and install guide</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">perspective as well.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Symbol"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; ">·</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">A point of note that occurs to me is that the AG is no longer</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">considered</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">a TOY or a research experiment, rather than a tool that gets used in a production</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">environment,</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">hence people</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">no longer "play" with the technology, rather they implement and use it..</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Symbol"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; ">·</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Secondly, I know of a number of research groups who are funding within </SPAN><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Australia</SPAN></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "> their own Access Grids (10+ sites) for the sole purpose of research, teaching and</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">collaboration.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Symbol"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; ">·</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Thirdly,</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">I am seeing an increase in the number of</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">collaborative teaching's</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">across multiple</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">institution. (Example, we have 2 classes a term for a particulate cross</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">institution</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">subject.)</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Symbol"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; ">·</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">I would also say that a number of sites no longer</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">regularly</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">sit in a Venue's Lobby (Hence the possible</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">belief that people are no longer using it), rather</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">they are in regular sessions, or have formed their own niche</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">or internal</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">groups</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">and have become less visible. </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">A</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">simple example</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">that I am seeing, is a number of internal AG's purposely</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">build for a single</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">institution.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Symbol"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; ">·</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">On a QA perspective, I have had a number of emails</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">informing me that they are in the process of</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">building a number of sites and are</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">interested in the QA process.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Symbol"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Symbol; font-size: 13.3333px; ">·</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">I have also seen institutions that have had an AG for a number of years, building additional ones, which giving the institution has had previous experience, doesn't advertise the fact.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Overall I would say the use of the AG is ever increasing, but it is no longer a</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">global group, but rather AG users have began splitting up into their own niche groups for a variety of</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">purposes.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Anyway,</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">that’s just my 2 cents worth.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Cheers,</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Jason.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">As a side note, I think these issues are making it ever more important to have a single location for AG related topics, ie accessgrid.org. </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">As the AG</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">community begins to diversify and</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">begin forming there own internal groups… </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">It is ever more</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">important in my opinion</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">for a single point of contact for AG related topics.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">-----Original Message-----</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">From: Derek Piper [</SPAN><A href="mailto:dcpiper@indiana.edu"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">mailto:dcpiper@indiana.edu</SPAN></A><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">]</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Sent: Friday, 5 January 2007 5:25 AM</SPAN><BR style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">To: <A href="mailto:ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov">ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov</A></SPAN><BR style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Subject: [AG-TECH] Fading AG usage?</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Hi all,</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">I've been part of the AG community for a while now, nearly 3 years and</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">over that time I've not seen a lot of growth in the number of sites that</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">we interface with for AccessGrid meetings. Quite oppositely I have seen</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">sites that were good AG participants fall into 'disrepair' through lack</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">of funding and site expertise.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">A bit of a devil's advocate question, but is AccessGrid usage</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">declining? Is AccessGrid on the way out? I've seen people turn to things</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">such as Polycom for meetings rather than have AccessGrid meetings.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">I'm curious to learn of other points of view on this.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="3" face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Derek</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">--</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Derek Piper - <A href="mailto:dcpiper@indiana.edu">dcpiper@indiana.edu</A> - (812) 856 0111</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family: " courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">IRI 323, </SPAN><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">School</SPAN></ST1:PLACETYPE><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "> of </SPAN><ST1:PLACENAME w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Informatics</SPAN></ST1:PLACENAME></ST1:PLACE></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P><P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "><ST1:PLACENAME w:st="on"><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Indiana</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACENAME><FONT size="2" face="Courier New"><SPAN style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:" courier="" new";="" font-size:="" 13.3333px;=""><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; "> </SPAN><ST1:PLACETYPE w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">University</SPAN></ST1:PLACETYPE><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">, </SPAN><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Bloomington</SPAN></ST1:CITY><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">, </SPAN><ST1:STATE w:st="on"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Courier New; font-size: 13.3333px; ">Indiana</SPAN></ST1:STATE></ST1:PLACE></SPAN></FONT><O:P style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 16px; "></O:P></P></DIV></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>