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<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
George,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
process of dealing with certificates has not changed since the change that
occured between 2.0 and 2.1. In 2.0 you used certificate request tools provided
by the Globus Toolkit. In 2.1 you use the UI you describe below. It sounds like
you are having problems getting the request to actually happen. Perhaps if you
sent the log files and/or submitted a bug report on this it would be easier for
us to figure out. The log files are typically in \Documents and
Settings\<user>\Application Data\AccessGrid\*.log.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Related to your "other note" :-), I whole heartedly agree with your
sentiment. The past year has been a hurricane of activity, not all of which has
been coordinated in the best manner. In order to try and attain the goals you
are talking about we could use a couple of things:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>1)
developers who want to do some work :), we have alot of users, some disguised as
node operators, but we don't have very many active developers outside of ANL.
We'd be happy to have some. We are only a team of 4.5-ish, there is alot of work
to do and we would be happy to help other people do some. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>2) We
need to be a bit more open about the project, it's directions and status. This
was pointed out to me at SC last week, I'm looking for solutions that don't
create other problems.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>There
are various other points that I have a hard time understanding, ie, what the old
mailing list is, the points about documentation, etc. If you can perhaps be more
specific I'd be happy to address these concerns.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=669424102-25112003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>--Ivan</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
owner-ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Glover George<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:33
AM<BR><B>To:</B> ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov<BR><B>Subject:</B> [AG-TECH]
Certificates<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
all,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-tab-count: 1">
</SPAN>I remember seeing something about the Certificate process changed?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But we decided to give 2.1.2 a go
again, and everything seems to be exactly the same as it used to be.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The software asks to create a
certificate request and the same dialogs and info come up about waiting two
days, etc. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Is there something I
should do differently?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I mean,
seriously, it’s been now 6 months we’ve tried to use version 2 and can never
even get past the certificate part. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">On another note.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I know I am probably preaching to the
choir, but I’d like to take the opportunity to voice some of my observations
about the project. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It seems as
though every time there is a new version released there are more functionality
additions, but notes about “this is a bug, will be fixed in a new
release”.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It seems to me that we
would be better suited with rock solid releases, and add features later.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are some issues, especially the
certificates, etc., that we’ve known about for a while.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I mean, I could be completely wrong on
this point, but what are the chances of focusing on one good release soon, and
at the same time, a complete re-vamping of the website with Accurate
documentation and removal of all the old archaic information there.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The ONLY way to actually install this
software is to read the old mailing list, and subscribe and watch it for a
while. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The documents are not up
to date.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I constantly see on the
list, references to documentation with notes about how you actually do parts
different.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I know this is an open
source program, and community tested, but maybe we’d serve ourselves a little
better to be more professional with the documentation and release
schedules.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That said, we don’t believe
everything is bad.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We’re still
using version 1.2 here successfully, with minor problems. <SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And the software is great, especially
the wish lists.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Just thought I’d
stick my unsolicited 2 cents in with the hopes that we can keep this issue in
light of everything else.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Hope I
haven’t crashed and burned too bad :p<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Glover
George<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Systems
Administrator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">High Performance Visualization
Lab<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:place><st1:PlaceType><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">University</SPAN></FONT></st1:PlaceType><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> of
</SPAN></FONT><st1:PlaceName><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Southern
Mississippi</SPAN></FONT></st1:PlaceName></st1:place><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="mailto:glover.george@usm.edu">glover.george@usm.edu</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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