hi, hmmm....this may work. if i set the console to be output 1 (or "a" they call it), and i can force pop-ups to go to #1, then it should all look pretty clean. i can drag projectable items (vic, vnc) to the projector displays #2 and #3. if i keep the menu bar horizontal, it still spans all the displays. the only major problem i see is with powerpoint. if ppt goes full screen, then it's going to span all the displays. however, it seems that the java client used with dppt can specify the size and location of the displayed full-screen image. if that works, then i'm home free. i'll try it and let you know. thanks, -gurcharan =========================== Gurcharan S. Khanna, Associate Director Research Computing, Dartmouth College gkhanna@dartmouth.edu office: 603-646-1644 http://research.dartmouth.edu/ http://www.dartmouth.edu/~gkhanna PS i'm running XP on this PIG --- Matthew Wolf wrote: When I need the full real estate, I put it into the triple mode, where the 3rd output drives the left-most projector, #1 drives the right projector, and #2 drives the console. (this may sound counter-intuitive, but it works with our room layout) In the Matrox powerdesktop setup utility you can force all popup windows to go to one particular screen -- here I send them all to #2 (console). It plays a bit of havoc if you set vic to automatically place new video streams, because they all only show up on the console. The icon issue is a pain -- Best I've ever been able to do is just drag them (and the task bar) over to the far right of the screen. I suppose going up to XP would help, since you could get rid of the icons altogether and just run everything from the taskbar. I've never actually tried this, though. --- end of quote ---