[AG-TECH] shared browser with private website possible?

[Ivan R. Judson]

You don't need to share passwords if the proxy is holding the password.

You *do* need to have some authorization on the proxy, or you've made the
web pasword useless :-)

--Ivan 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ivo schindler [mailto:ag-techliste at toastbrot.ch] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 5:23 AM
> To: Ivan R. Judson
> Cc: ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] shared browser with private website possible?
> 
> don't you need to hand out passords as well? of course one 
> could generate sessionpasswords, but it is still to 
> complicated. Compared to all the proposed solutions it is 
> much less difficult to use microsoft netmeeting to share 
> secured websites. i think this is a pity and i don't want to 
> propose netmeeting. it lacks a lot of usefull stuff that AG provides.
> 
> maybe an extended pictureviewer, where one could grab the 
> actual screen and refresh it every second would already 
> almost solve this problem...
> it wont be very elegant. but more comfortable than the other 
> solutions (hardware, vnc, proxy)
> 
> is there anything planned for sharing for example a secured 
> website or a local window for an upcoming release of AG or by 
> some independent developer?
> 
> thanx again and greetings.ivo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 08:11:10AM -0500, Ivan R. Judson wrote:
> > 
> > The other alternative is to use the shared browser with a shared 
> > proxy; this changes the application structure slightly, but 
> makes it 
> > much more like the trivial shared applications that have 
> been done for 
> > decades, simply multiplexing input and output.
> > 
> > We did a shared adventure back in '93 that way that was a smash hit 
> > :-)
> > 
> > --Ivan
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> > > [mailto:owner-ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of ivo schindler
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:57 AM
> > > To: Hank Magnuski
> > > Cc: ag-tech at mcs.anl.gov
> > > Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] shared browser with private 
> website possible?
> > > 
> > > Hi Hank
> > > 
> > > Thank you for your answer, it was the only one!
> > > 
> > > you are right in the points of security and so on. but 
> hardware is 
> > > out of scope of my thesis and it would use 2 computer for 
> every node 
> > > plus your hardware. as i would use AG for a big amount of 
> > > Workingspaces i think your proposed solution is not realistic.
> > > 
> > > do you or anybody else know any other solution? i've 
> tested vnc but 
> > > this is neither integrated in ag nor does it scale at all.
> > > 
> > > thank you and greetings.
> > > ivo schindler
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 07:30:13AM -0700, Hank Magnuski wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, ivo schindler wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > hi all
> > > > > 
> > > > > i want to share a private website (secured by htpasswd or
> > > even one
> > > > > in a private subnet). how can i manage that, without 
> giving the
> > > > > login- informations to the others? Is that possbile at all?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes. We offer an alternative solution to solve this problem
> > > which is
> > > > more secure and easier to use than the various software 
> solutions 
> > > > currently available.
> > > > 
> > > > Take a look at this product:
> > > > 
> > > >   http://www.ncast.com/telepresenterG2.htm
> > > > 
> > > > It captures the analog RGB signals from the output of a PC (in 
> > > > your case, the secure PC logged into the private subnet showing 
> > > > the internal page) and then packetizes and multicasts 
> this image 
> > > > as a high-resolution MPEG-4 multicast (1024x768 at 8 
> frames/sec).
> > > > 
> > > > Thus, ANYTHING shown on the desktop of the PC will be 
> captured and 
> > > > broadcast to the other nodes (web pages, Powerpoints, Excel, 
> > > > custom software, etc.).
> > > > 
> > > > The security of the internal network is assured because 
> the link 
> > > > between the internal and external networks is an RGB cable
> > > which acts
> > > > as a natural and complete firewall.
> > > > 
> > > > Any of the other solutions require the presentation PC to be on 
> > > > the external network (the Access Grid nodes) and the internal 
> > > > network (private
> > > > subnet) simultaneously, allowing for potential security faults.
> > > > 
> > > > If you have any questions about this, or if you would 
> like to see 
> > > > a demo of this for your government project, please let me know.
> > > > 
> > > > Hank
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
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