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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Colleagues<span style='color:#1F497D'> (resent – I haven’t received any feedback from this recent update)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have started to draft feedback (apologies for the roughness) from everyone and collated a few ideas on ways to move the AG services forward. I have attempted to group all comments and added a few of my own, but please feel free to comment, even editorial feedback welcomed! <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It is hoped that this email is only the beginning and additional content will be provide once new feedback has been obtained, particularly to the table below.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i>Please note, that though a number of suggestions were made on how the Access Grid software and services can be improved, I believe it is important to focus on the continuation of current services, before additional code development or the likes can be considered.<o:p></o:p></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>One idea that has been floated around, is to setup a/many Virtual Machine/s to run many of the services on. There are many options with this idea, either use one of the many global hosting services, or to use an institutional system (thanks to all those institutional groups who have already offered their services!). Some things to consider though:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Commercial hosting service<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Someone or group has to finance the ongoing costs<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Even if multiple groups contribute, a board or person will have to manage payment, etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Commercial grade network (will large downloads and site visits be slow or incur large costs)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Will the “hosting” be reliable?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Given the many hosting services that are starting and stopping, will a new host be needed every couple of years?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Not tied to any particular group or organisation, therefore if funding stops from one location, another can take over or replace easily, without the need to move the services to another location.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Not being tied to anyone particular, this can be seen as a more open source product and community.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>Institutional hosting<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Will the services need to be transferred again, after support runs out?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Will network charges be incurred?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Most intuitional organisations are funded on a “term” basis, therefore, will services need to be moved regularly once support runs out?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>For example, ANL will no longer fund/support the AG projects, therefore services need to be moved. Will this be something that occurs every few years?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level2 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>How reliable can we count on the support?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Institutions generally have very large and fast networks, thus large data traffic should cause any performance issues.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b>What do people think of the two options listed? Any advantages or disadvantages to add? Any preference?<o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Another question that I guess needs to be answered is domain names. For example, some of the default aspects of the Venue Server and Venue Client code points to ANL addresses. For example, “vv3.mcs.anl.gov”, I am wondering if it be possible to have rules in place that forward this address (DNS redirection) to another location (one to be determined of course). This will prevent the need to immediately modify source code and roll out updates to support new internet addresses.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I have attempted to table the various Access Grids Services and Systems that need to be transitioned, provided some general comments and possible options. If anyone have anything else to add or modify, please do contribute to this conversation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='border-collapse:collapse'><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b>Access Grid Services and Systems <o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b>Comments<o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b>Priority<o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b>Option 1<o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b>Option 2<o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b>Option 3<o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b>Recommendation<o:p></o:p></b></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b>Additional Comments<o:p></o:p></b></p></td></tr><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.accessgrid.org">www.accessgrid.org</a> domain name<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Can the domain name be transferred?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Who will own (be responsible) for maintaining this address<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Do we want to obtain a new address?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>Nice to have<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Transfer domain<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Use a new address<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>???<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>vv3.mcs.anl.gov and other anl.gov domain names<strong><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Can all these address be forward to new location.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Thinking out loud, but standardising to a new address, such as <a href="http://www.accessgrid.org">www.accessgrid.org</a> would be useful in the long term.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>Nice to have<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Forward to new domain names<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Update Venue Client and Venue Server code and roll up new versions with these updates<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>???<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Access Grid Source Code<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>A system needs to be implemented that allows the storage and Access to the Access Grid Source Code.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>It is expected that an international group will oversee updates, etc.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>This is currently in a SVN repository.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo6'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Only one repository required.<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>Must to have<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Using Source Forge<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Google ????<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Nothing further investigated?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Using a hosted service (Commercial or Institutional) and implement a SVN repository<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoPlainText>Source Forge Instructions: <a href="http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/SVN%20adminrepo#ImportingfromotherreposincludingotherSCMs">http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/SVN%20adminrepo#ImportingfromotherreposincludingotherSCMs</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>ANL Jabber Server<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(could be made a regional service)<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l10 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Currently, any newly configured Venue Server will use the ANL Jabber Server.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l10 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Questions:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l10 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Do we want to use a different technology than jabber?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l10 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Should a number of regional jabber servers be configured and a Venue Server config option be implemented.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l10 level2 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>o<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Should each Venue Server run their own Jabber server, therefore removing a single point of failure?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l10 level1 lfo8'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Should a Global Jabber server be implemented as a stop gap measure?<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>Critical<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Use a hosted service (Commercial or Institutional) and implement a Global Jabber server<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i>Note: The Venue Server source code will have to be modified to point to new server, if DNS redirection cannot be implemented.<o:p></o:p></i></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Use a different technology than Jabber.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>One technology that has been mentioned is MQTT (Message Queue Telemetry Protocol).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Each host running their own jabber server?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Is this Feasible or even possible?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l11 level1 lfo10'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Is the development work require too much before the required deadline for the shutdown?<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>ANL Bridge Registry<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>(could be made a regional service)<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>It is already possible to run your own Bridge Registry. The question is more, currently Venue Clients default to using “<strong><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>vv3.mcs.anl.gov:8030</span></strong>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Should another global “bridge registry” be implemented, or should a number of “regional bridge registries” be implemented that these be added to the source code?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>Critical<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Use a hosted service (Commercial or Institutional) and implement a Global Bridge Registry<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i>Note: The Venue Client source code will have to be modified to point to new server, if DNS redirection cannot be implemented.</i><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Roll out a set of regional registries, which is documented on the AG website and provide documentation to users for adding new registries.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo12'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Additionally, update source code to contain new registries.<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>???<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:45.9pt'><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:45.9pt'><p class=MsoNormal>AG-Dev Certificate Authority<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:45.9pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Currently, whenever new Venue Servers are implemented, they must request and install an identity certificate.<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:45.9pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>Critical<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:45.9pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Centralised certificates?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Use a hosted service (Commercial or Institutional) and implement a Global Jabber server<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i>Note: The Venue Server source code will have to be modified to point to new server, if DNS redirection cannot be implemented.</i><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:45.9pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Self-signed certificates<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo12'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>lessens the security features available<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l9 level1 lfo12'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Does anyone care about this?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:45.9pt'><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt'>???<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:45.9pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt;height:45.9pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>The accessgrid.org web site<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>The <a href="http://www.accessgrid.org">www.accessgrid.org</a> website is a very useful resource that contained things like:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo14'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Global Node listing;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo14'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>QA information and results;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo14'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>AG Projects (<a href="http://www.accessgrid.org/projects">http://www.accessgrid.org/projects</a>) <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo14'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Software downloads;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo14'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Documentation;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo14'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Hardware information;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo14'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Community information; and<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l7 level1 lfo14'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>New and events<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Things to note:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo16'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Website is based on Drupal 4.7 and is extremely long overdue for a software upgrade. Current version is 7.12 (as of 10/4/2012)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l6 level1 lfo16'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Newer versions may cause issues with some aspects of the current content, particularly Node listing and QA;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>Must to have<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Use a hosted service (Commercial or Institutional) and implement a Global Bridge Registry<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Simply move current content to new location.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo18'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Current version of drupal out-dated;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo18'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Content will be the same as current website.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo18'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Assumed less work required<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Use a hosted service (Commercial or Institutional) and implement a Global Bridge Registry<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Install newer version of drupal and port content over.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo20'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Significant amount of work required;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l4 level1 lfo20'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Some aspects, particularly Node listing and QA may have to be completely redeveloped;<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Start a fresh, possibly look towards using a different CMS system?<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>It is assumed that the domain name <a href="http://www.accessgrid.org">www.accessgrid.org</a> can still be used.<o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>AG-related mailing lists<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>There are many community mailing list that are actively used. These being:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov"><span style='font-weight:normal'>ag-tech@mcs.anl.gov</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></strong></p><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:ag-users@mcs.anl.gov"><span style='font-weight:normal'>ag-users@mcs.anl.gov</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></strong></p><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:ag-announce@mcs.anl.gov"><span style='font-weight:normal'>ag-announce@mcs.anl.gov</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></strong></p><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:ag-dev@mcs.anl.gov"><span style='font-weight:normal'>ag-dev@mcs.anl.gov</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></strong></p><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:ag-cvs@mcs.anl.gov"><span style='font-weight:normal'>ag-cvs@mcs.anl.gov</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></strong></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo22'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Are all these mailing list still required?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo22'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Are there any other ones that should be created?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:18.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l5 level1 lfo22'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Can the history be ported?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>Must to have<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Use a hosted service (Commercial or Institutional) and implement an Access Grid mailing list service.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Use Source Forge. If using Source Forge is decided as the best option for housing the source code, they have additional services such as mailing lists that could be used.<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>ANL Venue Server<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>It is already possible to run your own Venue Server. The question is more, currently Venue Clients default to using “<strong><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'>vv3.mcs.anl.gov:8000</span></strong>”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Should another global “Venue Server” be implemented, or should a number of “regional Venue Server” be implemented that these be added to the source code?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo24'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Which ones become default?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>Nice to have<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Use a hosted service (Commercial or Institutional) and implement a Global Venue Server<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><i>Note: The Venue Client source code will have to be modified to point to new server, if DNS redirection cannot be implemented.</i><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Roll out / utilise more a set of regional Venue Servers, which is documented on the AG website and provide documentation to users for adding Venue Server addresses.<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Set the default Venue Server to one currently listed at <a href="http://www.accessgrid.org/community">http://www.accessgrid.org/community</a> or another one???<br><br>Any volunteers?<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>NCSA AG Scheduler<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>NCSA are interested in finding someone to take on the support of AGSchedule<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'>Critical ???<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Use a hosted service (Commercial or Institutional) and implement and support AGSchedule on a new server.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td></tr><tr><td width=164 valign=top style='width:123.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Multicast Beacon<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=277 valign=top style='width:207.7pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Is a global or regional solution required?<o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=151 valign=top style='width:4.0cm;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=158 valign=top style='width:118.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=160 valign=top style='width:120.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=254 valign=top style='width:190.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=321 valign=top style='width:240.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td><td width=384 valign=top style='width:288.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I would propose that we should try to break down some of the current AG services into 2 categories. These being Global and Regional Services.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Global Services - are services that only requires a single instance or implementation;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l8 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Regional Services – are services that can have multiple instances or implementations of;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Once the various services are determined to be Global or Regional, a total list of global resources can be identified. 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