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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=164011402-03102002>Hey
Jay,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=164011402-03102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=164011402-03102002>Thanks
for the feedback already. I need to read over the WS-Security spec, I know
it's been in flux lately, but I need to get more familiar with it. Maybe while
I'm home after the baby comes tomorrow (shyeah).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=164011402-03102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=164011402-03102002>We do
have this general problem of thinking of ACE/ACL's and enforcement
infrastructure, which i think is rich for work. We do have to leverage
Globus for our security, but I know Globus has done some work on SASL
integration. Has Passport done anything to be a SASL option? If so,
we could consider targeting SASL abstracting the actual security
implementation out of the infrastructure (which might benefit everyone).
I'll read up on SASL to see if this makes more or less
sense.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=164011402-03102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=164011402-03102002>We
haven't specified SQL schemas yet since that assumes a SQL database as a web
service backend. I'd be happy if we get interfaces concretely defined in
WSDL, leveraging data types defined by XML Schemas. Those map directly to
SQL data structures with .Net but also leave us the option of other
implementations.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=164011402-03102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=164011402-03102002>Can
you remind me of where the WSDL descriptions of the components you developed
are?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=164011402-03102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=164011402-03102002>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=164011402-03102002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=164011402-03102002>--Ivan</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jay Beavers
[mailto:jbeavers@microsoft.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 01, 2002
1:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B> judson@mcs.anl.gov<BR><B>Cc:</B> Todd Needham; Michael
E. Papka<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Drop me links to the AG 2.0 specs after the
presentation please<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Some thoughts for
you:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Authentication
/ Authorization</SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Have you looked at
the WS-Security specification? It provides for attaching X.509
certificates to SOAP messages and signing the messages. In reviewing the
Globus Toolkit 2.0’s security model, it seemed that WS-Security would be a
great way of using Globus certificates with web service calls. The “Web
Services Development Kit” has a preview implementation of WS-Security for
.NET You can download the <A
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/default.asp?URL=/downloads/sample.asp?url=/MSDN-FILES/027/001/997/msdncompositedoc.xml">WSDK
Preview</A>. See <A
href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwssecur/html/wssecwithwsdk.asphttp://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwssecur/html/wssecwithwsdk.asp">Using
WS_Security with the WSDK</A> for an example with source code of how to use
the WSDK to sign and authenticate a web service call using X.509 v3
certificates.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Unfortunately, the
WSDK still doesn’t have ACL/ACE functionality for authorizing users’ access to
objects. I’m prototyping a couple of classes that basically mirror the
ACL/ACE/group design from VMS/NT for an unrelated project if you’re interested
in collaborating in this area. The idea is to have a generic
“authorization” object that you can “attach” to an object, set the ACL,
serialize the ACL for easy storage, and perform authorization
checks.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SQL
Schemas</SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I didn’t see any
details on web service interfaces of SQL schema in the discussions. I’d
like to talk at this level so that we can get interoperability going.
I’ve done a first pass at SQL schema synchronization with </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Shawn
Davis</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> and I think I should
be AG Venue Server functionality compatible with my next venue server
release. I’d love to be in a position where we (MSR) release a subset of
functionality and both ANL and NCSA are able to add on functionality to the
same server by adding additional functionality on top of the same data
store.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Web
Service Interfaces</SPAN></FONT></B></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’d like to
synchronize on web service interfaces too. I’ve provided you guys with
our WSDL and source for the web service calls used by CXP. I’d like to
get feedback and to synchronize these as well, probably following the same
pattern as above where we provide a subset of functionality but that subset is
100% compatible.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I look forward to
talking more after the retreat.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> -
jcb</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Ivan R.
Judson [mailto:judson@mcs.anl.gov] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 30, 2002 7:57
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Jay
Beavers<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Todd Needham;
'Michael E. Papka'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
RE: Drop me links to the AG 2.0 specs after the presentation
please</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hey
Dude,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Don't
worry about it; sometimes that happens.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://www.mcs.anl.gov/fl/events/agtech/">http://www.mcs.anl.gov/fl/events/agtech/</A></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">These
aren't as detailed as I'd like, but they are a start. We'll see if things work
tomorrow :-)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">--Ivan</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Jay
Beavers [mailto:jbeavers@microsoft.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, September 30, 2002 10:16
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
Judson@MCS.anl.gov<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Todd
Needham<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Drop me
links to the AG 2.0 specs after the presentation please</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sorry I couldn’t join you this
morn Ivan. Seems technical difficulties were to be the order of the
day.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was unable to use OpenMash
instead of ddvic to enable sending of my video. If I switched from
ddvic to OpenMash, all video windows came in as blank
grey.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was unable to send audio from
rat. It would see the signal locally, but my send indicators stayed
grey instead of green.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was unable to connect to the
DPPT server. Don’t ask me why, I don’t know.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So if you could, please drop me
the PPT links later. I’ll take a look at them and send feedback via
email.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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